Christina Carter’s “Mindscape”

Mindscape 1 175x98 Christina Carters Mindscape[Adults only] Christina Carter has released a new video called Mindscape, which is most definitely aimed at fans of sexually explicit, adult-oriented superheroine peril, with elements of X-Men and Inception thrown in for good measure. Check out preview images and description below.

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Story Description

Mindscape is a fan custom with a great sci-fi storyline. Think X-Menwhere Christina Carter plays a mutant humanoid special agent on a mission. She has the mutant power to enter a sleeping target’s subconscious through their dreams. The process is called “Mindscaping” and is a very effective intelligence-gathering method. Her mission is to Mindscape her target Carissa Montgomery to gain vital information for a suspected assassination attempt on the President of the United States.

Mindscape has a great twist, superb acting and a realistic fight and struggle sequence that only further compliments two very sexy actresses. With a broad audience appeal Mindscape has something for everyone and crosses over several fetish genres to include super-heroine, pantyhose encasement, hand over mouth, girl-girl, masturbation, strap-on sex, cat fighting, wrestling and more.

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  1. I love Christiana Carter, but there’s been too much of this girl-on-girl stuff for my taste lately. I’m sure I’m in the minority on this, so I don’t need to hear it.

    But IMO, female antagonists are not “perilous”. It kinda ruins the illusion in that sense. But whatever. I’m sure people will buy it anyway…

  2. TheLecher

    I’m a big fan of lesbian domination and always have been, especially if there’s a strap-on involved (a strap-on isn’t necessary, but it’s a bonus), so this looks interesting to me. Yes, I would prefer B/G hardcore to G/G hardcore in a majority of cases (but not all), but unless Christina’s husband is willing to start doing scenes with her, I don’t see their company putting out any hardcore B/G content. And I’ll take hardcore G/G over softcore B/G pretty much every time.

    As for female antagonists not being menacing or putting the protagonist in peril, I think that’s crazy talk, but each to their own.

  3. saxman314

    Yup. +1, Jon. It’s not just Christina. It’s across the board. It’s been maybe 65/35 against fans of strong male villains since the end of punishedheroines.com’s weekly updates back in the day, but it’s becoming almost the entirety of western peril movies, lately, and it’s pretty much 100% F/F when it comes to hardcore. Seems the only somewhat consistent options are shc, the japanese (with their host of caveats), or the rare vid from CC, Rachel or Alex Bettinger.

  4. saxman314

    Speaking strictly of X-rated, BTW. NGC and TBFE are a decent substitute with a more equitable spread of male to female villains. Still, PG is only halfway there!

  5. If you want to know why nobody is doing a lot of B/G any more the influence is VISA. Visa has had a new revised list of ‘terms of service violations’ parameters for about two years now. They’ve been stricter and stricter about them lately. Someone in the SHiP industry recently ratted out Nicheclips and their ‘quietly below the radar’ practices, and there was a lot of speculation as to who exactly is tattling on fetish companies to the Feds.

    The rules lean HEAVILY on people who do boy-on-girl violence because it is deemed politically-incorrect by liberals (and of course, morally repugnant by conservatives) but both have a little more of a blind eye on the female-on-female violence. The new list of no-nos includes some truly bizarre stuff which wouldn’t be considered ‘extreme’ by almost anyone. Most of it is ridiculously tame by ordinary standards as a matter of fact. The forum of people who were discussing it were amazed that you can’t even ‘threaten’ someone in a video anymore because it implies the possibility of physical harm, and thus is no longer acceptable under the new TOS ideology. An ideology predicated on the phrase, “We at VISA do not wish to get sued or investigated by the F.B.I., at any and all costs.”

  6. Personally I prefer F/F anyway; it’s easier to sell the fight scenes (I also hate it in Hollywood movies when some 98 lb waif beats up guys twice her size), and I think it creates a campier, more playful tone. Also, there are plenty of actresses who can pull off the villainous dominatrix role really well, but the male villains I’ve seen usually struggle even with bare-bones roles like “thug” or “mute monster”

    That said, this particular clip is not for me, just because I’m not into the pantyhose thing, but I do think Christina’s upcoming Wonder Woman movie looks like it could be an all-time favorite once it finally comes out.

  7. saxman314

    @Shakeshift: Not surprised to hear that. I’ve been unable to buy from or subscribe to several sites lately with my Visa. This shit sucks balls. Everybody go to paypal, dammit! LOL

    PS, I’m liberal as they come but there’s a difference between real life and fantasy movies. I wouldn’t run around beating on girls but I sure love my SH vids that way.

  8. TheLecher

    Shakeshift is dead right about Visa gunning for porn. Actually, Visa has been waging a war on porn in one form or another for the past ten years, though they haven’t been so aggressive and oppressive until just recently. This is something which I’ve been trying to bring to people’s attention on a couple of different internet forums, and I’ve even mentioned it here, in one of the Alex Bettinger/Paris Kennedy threads.

    That being said, I would like to correct one bit of misinformation which some people may have taken away from Shakeshift’s post. (Whether or not he/she meant to convey this meaning, I don’t know, but it seemed implicit to me.) There were two references in the post to the feds or F.B.I. I would just like to clear up for anyone who may not already know this, but, while there be some pieces of shit out there trying to stir up trouble for fetish producers with Visa (and succeeding), there would be no point in any one “tattling to the feds” on any porn producer, unless they were producing child porn. The Department of Justice (DOJ) is no longer bringing obscenity charges against porn producers, and hasn’t been for almost four years. The only porn being prosecuted under the current administration is child pornography. In fact, the DOJ task force which was assigned to investigating and prosecuting pornographers for obscenities (the Obscenity Prosecution Task Force) was dissolved and it’s resources were absorbed by other divisions of the DOJ. Since Eric Holder was appointed to office, not one new obscenity prosecution has been initiated against any US pornographers (other than child pornographers), although prosecutions which were begun under the previous administration were allowed to continue.

    Of course, this situation could change. Things could revert to how they were under the previous administration. There’s really know way for us to know yet what the environment will be after the coming elections. But as things stand now, the US DOJ doesn’t appear to pose any threat to porn in the US, and it hasn’t for the past four years. Some people may not have picked up on that fact, because they’re so used to the long years of persecution which have gone before. But we (“We” being those people who care about the freedom of expression and other freedoms and will work or fight to preserve them.) have made a lot of progress in recent years toward securing our freedom of expression, and porn has always been on the front line of that fight.

    And then along comes Visa. Just when we were beating the censors in the courts and elsewhere, a private sector institution joins the fight and blindsides everyone. In the last two years, Visa has accomplished more to censor porn and take away our freedom than the US government had accomplished in the approximately 40 years since porn stopped being sold out of the trunks of peoples cars and moved into the movie theatres (in 1972). The censors are in control now, and they’re tightening the screws.

    Here’s a short list of just a few of Visa’s recent acts of censorship:
    1. In November of 2009, Visa forced PornPros to shut down their Sleep Creep website and remove all of the content (67 scenes, I think) from their network.

    2. In March of 2011, Visa forced Brazzers to temporarily suspend production of new scenes for their Pornstars Punishment website. They also forced Brazzers to remove three of the scenes which had already been released on that site. After several weeks, Brazzers resumed production, after they had worked out new guidelines for shooting the scenes which watered the content down considerably.

    3. Earlier this year, Visa again targeted Brazzers’ Pornstars Punishment site, but this time the site was shut down permanently and all of the scenes (145 in total) were removed from the network.

    And while it’s true that there has long been a double standard in porn which says that it’s okay for women to rough up, or even “rape” (The quotation marks are to indicate that we’re talking about a simulated rape performed by fully consenting performers for the sake of gratifying rape FANTASY, and has nothing to do with real rape.) other women, or that it’s okay for women to rough up or rape men, but that it’s not okay for men to do those things to women (in scenes, as part of a fantasy scenario, with all participants giving their full consent), that’s double standard is no longer providing as much protection as it used to. The list continues…

    4. Shortly after killing off Pornstars Punishment, Visa began to turn its attention to Brazzers’ lesbian domination site, Hot and Mean. New scenes being released were being heavily censored. In some cases, the editing was so heavy handed as to create obvious and sometimes jarring transitions in the scenes. Some scenes were posted to the site without first being censored and were almost immediately taken back down and then re-released later on with five or more minutes of footage cut out. Other scenes being released had the storylines and the aggression and domination factors dialed down considerably. And while the site hasn’t been removed yet, they have now missed posting the last two updates which should have gone up, and 59 scenes which used to be on the site have been removed. So while there’s still a slight chance that the old double standard will save the site from complete extinction, it’s very clear that Visa is no longer giving the G/G stuff a free pass.

    5. Still not content with the damage they had done (because censors never stop censoring until someone makes them stop), Visa has forced Brazzers to remove almost 300 other scenes from their network, scenes which had nothing to do with either Pornstars Punishment or Hot and Mean. Among the things which Visa has started targeting? (And this isn’t a complete list of what Visa’s targeting.) No scenes are allowed which show anyone drinking any alcoholic beverage (or even holding one) either before or during sex. No scenes are allowed which show hypnosis. Scenes which take place at a high school are also being targeted, despite the fact that all of the performers are over 18 years old and are playing characters who are supposed to be over 18 years old in the scene.

    Some people have argued that the reason why Brazzers and PornPros and some of the other major studios have been targeted is because they have a much higher public profile than the small, independent producers, but this doesn’t really stand up to examination, because the small production companies are taking hits, as well. Perhaps the largest companies are bearing the brunt of the censorship, but I’m not convinced of that. The list continues…

    6. Some of you may know who Lorelei Mission is, but many won’t. She’s a producer of fetish content who has had her own subscription website for many years. I’m not going to name the site here for several reasons, but I mention her because Visa effectively shut down the subscription side of her site, although she has managed to stay in business by selling her content through other venues. (Well, she didn’t specifically name Visa, but she stated on her site that the subscription side of her business was shutting down because she had lost her credit card processing. That seems clear enough to me.)

    7. Steve Steele is a producer of fetish content which focuses on mind control, robots, and “living dolls.” I don’t think any of his content has ever appeared here on Heroine Movies, but almost one third of his releases are in the superheroine in peril genre (specifically, mind controlled superheroines). He used to have three websites where he sold his content. One of the sites is gone, a second site has a notice posted saying that he has lost his credit card processing and is now selling his content through other venues, and the third site appears to be still up and running, but hasn’t been updated since February. I think it’s safe to assume that this is a case of “Visa strikes again.”

    8. Alex Bettinger recently mentioned in one of his and Paris Kennedy’s threads here on Heroine Movies that they are under certain restrictions regarding their content, restrictions which have been imposed by their billing company. When I asked him about it, he did confirm in that thread that Visa was involved in imposing those restrictions.

    And then there’s the example Shakeshift gave of NicheClips being targeted.

    This is for real, people. Visa has a well established foothold and a lot of leverage, and they are using that relentlessly to impose sweeping censorship and to take the decision of what you’re allowed to see and hear out of your hands. I, for one, am not okay with that.

    At some point, the industry is going to have to deal with the Visa problem, and the sooner, the better, because the longer this situation is allowed to persist, the more intolerable it is going to become. But until the producers and distributors and other members of the adult entertainment industry do deal with the problem, it’s up to fight for the content we want, and in so doing to fight for our freedom of expression.

  9. saxman314

    Whoever comes up with a way to package a porn friendly Mastercard for internet purchases with paperless billing will make a killing. Market it to the website owners like a store card, or create a central web billing hub for all content providers. If I knew anything about financial services I’d give it a go myself. Visa is creating a great opportunity for this part of the “free market” to correct itself!

  10. Question to The Lecher and others:

    Is Visa run by some form of conservative US political entity? Why is a credit card company waging this war?

  11. Shakeshift

    There’s also the matter of the porn industry being targeted by conservatives as being ‘degrading’ and ‘sinful.’ — At the RNC (held, oddly enough, in my work environment of Tampa, Florida) pornography was #3 on their bulleted list of things that they were going to work on censoring/reining in for the 2012-2016 agenda.

    Mind you, they’re *not* stamping out porn. They’re stamping out fetish. Most people LOVE porn (even if it is privately instead of publicly) but there is HUGE difference between Ron Jeremy fucking some 19-year old college student and Rachel Steele fucking her 19-year old son because she’s wanted to fuck him silly since he grew pubes back when he was thirteen. When he was little he used to suck on her breasts and now that it’s been almost twenty years she wants him to go back to sucking on them again.

    There is a WORLD of difference between those. Most of it having to do with “Vitamin O” (otherwise known as “vitamin ooogie”)

    Mind you, porn LOVES to work hand-in-hand with the government when it comes to stamping out indecency. Pornographers (when faced with government censorship) are more than happy to point at fetish producers and say, “THOSE are the guys you want! They love videos where hot babes get punched in the face! They love incest! They love to wear diapers! They shit in their own pants and record it for other perverts to enjoy! Those bastards are all sick in the head!” and then add in, “Hey! We’re just as appalled about these cretins as YOU are, guys! All we shoot is regular porn…. Just hot chicks fucking guys like you and me, am I right!???” (add knowing wink and smile to feds on cue)

    When backed up against the wall, porn works with government AGAINST fetish. They don’t stand up for it, because when you wage a war on pornography SOMEONE has to take the fall to show the voters that you accomplished something. When in doubt, the people doing fetish are going to be the sacrificial lambs when they want to see porn cracked down on. Chloroform people are gonna get it. Incest people are gonna get it. People who get off on punching beautiful women in the face or gut are gonna get it. Guys who love to get their balls squeezed so hard they pass out from the agony are gonna get it.

  12. kingles

    @TheLecher: How can a single credit card company, even the largest one, accomplish all of this when there are other credit card companies that could service those businesses? What prevents MasterCard, AmEx, Discover, etc. from saying, “If Visa doesn’t want your business unless you jump through hoops for them, We’ll take it.”.

    I can only assume from this that ALL the credit card companies are guilty of censorship…Or am I missing something? Sounds like they’re all in cahoots to me.

  13. kingles

    @Shakeshift: It really sucks how true that all is. ..

  14. TheLecher

    @kingles
    Yes, you are missing something. No, it isn’t all credit card companies working in concert to censor porn. Let me explain. Some of this you’ll probably already know, but bear with me.

    There are four major credit card companies in the US; Visa, MasterCard, American Express, and Discover. But obviously, those credit card companies are not all equal. Here are a few statistics for you to represent the market share by company. These figures are from 2010, but the market shares haven’t changed dramatically in the last two years, at least not to my knowledge.

    1. Visa has approximately 49.6% market share by number of cards in circulation (approximately 302 million cards) and approximately 43.4% market share by annual purchase volume.
    2. MasterCard has approximately 33.4% market share by number of cards in circulation (approximately 203 million cards) and approximately 27.1% market share by annual purchase volume.
    3. American Express has approximately 8% of the market share by number of cards in circulation (approximately 48.9 million cards) and approximately 23.8% market share by annual purchase volume.
    4. Discover has approximately 8.9% market share by number of cards in circulation (approximately 54.4 million cards) and approximately 5.7% of the market share by annual purchase volume.

    One of the first things you may notice is that, despite having the smallest market share by number of cards in circulation, American Express is actually in third place by annual purchase volume, far out-pacing Discover, which has more cards in circulation, and actually not coming in too far behind MasterCard. MasterCard’s market share by number of cards in circulation is slightly more than four times larger than that of American Express, and yet, American Express isn’t even a full 4% behind MasterCard in the purchasing volume department. I’ll explain in a moment why this is significant.

    Another thing which you may notice is that, calculated by annual purchase volume, Visa has a market share which is almost double that of American Express and almost 65% greater than that of their closest competitor, MasterCard. Visa’s market share by annual purchase volume is nearly eight times that of Discover.

    Now, before I explain why the disproportionately high market share (by purchase volume) for American Express is significant, I want to mention one more statistic. According the available data, the average US credit card consumer has 3.45 open credit accounts. For the sake of using a conservative estimate, let’s just say that the average credit card consumer has three credit cards to their name. Now, given the relative market shares by number of cards in circulation, you can easily see that it would be impossible for each of the four major US credit card companies to be equally represented in this distribution. My own personal sampling of credit card holders is far too small to be of any statistical value at all, but I can say that I do know people who carry multiple active Visa cards, and at least one person who held as many as three Visa cards, so without having any reliable data to show how common of an occurrence it is, we can safely assume that there are people out there who carry multiple Visa cards and no credit cards from other companies, and it’s also likely that there are people out there who carry multiple MasterCards and no cards from other companies, though it is considerably less likely that there are many credit card holders who carry multiple cards from either American Express or Discover and no cards from either Visa or MasterCard. Of course, it is also statistically likely that a great many people who have Visa cards also have MasterCards or an American Express or Discover card.

    Now for why American Express’s disproportionately high market share by purchase volume is significant. All of these statistics which I have so far been quoting are representative of overall consumer spending, not porn related spending. We don’t have any reliable data on how porn spending breaks down by credit card company. And while this isn’t a completely safe bet, I do think that the safest bet is to assume that porn spending by credit card company reflects overall spending patterns, but on a smaller scale. The catch is this: American Express will not process payments for porn companies. A few years back, American Express changed their policies to say that they wouldn’t process payments for online gambling companies or for porn companies. The reason they gave was that they were having too many reversed charges and were losing too much money. Now, because American Express won’t handle porn purchases, that means that a good chunk of the market share for porn has to be absorbed by the three remaining credit card companies, if we assume that American Express holders’ spending on porn is commensurate with their overall spending, something of which we can’t be sure, but because we don’t have any data to show otherwise, let’s proceed on that assumption.

    If we assume that American Express’s 23.8% market share by purchase volume is equally distributed among the three remaining credit card companies, that works out to an additional 7.93% for each company, bringing the market shares up to 51.33% (Visa), 35.03% (MasterCard), and 13.63% (Discover).

    Of course, given the number of cards in circulation for each company and Discover’s negligible market share, it seems to me extremely unlikely that the slack left by American Express would be equally distributed among the remaining companies. I think that it’s statistically much more likely that Visa would receive the largest part of American Express’s market share, MasterCard the second largest part, and Discover the smallest. But even if we assume an equal benefit to each company, you can see that it means that Visa has more than 50% of the market share by purchase volume.

    This is why Visa has so much power over porn companies at the present time. Many are afraid that, without Visa, they’ll lose so much of their revenue that it will put them out of business, so they bow down and kiss the boots that are kicking them. The problem with bowing down and kissing the boots that kick you (apart from the fact that it’s wrong on principal) is that now you’re in a position to be stomped upon, and stomping can be a hell of a lot worse than kicking.

    Of course, if Visa did stop processing payments for porn companies, or if porn companies began refusing to accept Visa cards, many buyers would just use a different credit card to buy their porn. However, as I’ve already pointed out, there is a good chance that a statistically significant number of consumers who are currently paying for their porn with Visa don’t actually have open accounts with any other credit card company. And porn companies have to consider the possibility that if those people aren’t able to buy their product with Visa, rather than going to the trouble of getting a new card with a different company, they’ll just go buy porn from another company which has complied with Visa’s demands and can therefore still process payments through Visa, effectively punishing the companies which stand up to Visa and rewarding those who give in.

    Personally, I think that most porn companies would be able to survive, and that, over time, the losses would be regained, as people gradually became more aware of the fact that their Visa cards are not the best way to buy porn. But there’s no way to guarantee that any given company WILL survive, and so you can probably understand why many are fearful.

    But something has to be done. This situation cannot be allowed to go on indefinitely, especially because, unless the problem is dealt with, it’s only going to get worse.

    So, in conclusion, no, it isn’t all of the credit card comanies working together to censor porn. Whether you find it easy or difficult to believe, it actually is Visa which is the bad guy here. That’s not to say that MasterCard and Discover couldn’t adopt such practices in the future, but for the time being, they haven’t been giving porn any problems, at least none of which I’ve heard. And if a solution is found to deal with Visa, then that solution might serve as a foundation on which to build future solutions to future problems.

    As for why they’re doing it, I can’t tell you that. I’ve heard different people speculate as to different possible motives, but I haven’t heard any arguments which I considered compelling. And really, I don’t care why they’re doing it. The fact that they’re doing it is enough. I won’t accept censorship, regardless of the source and regardless of the motives of the censors.

    I have to head out to work now, but I’ll post here again later, because there was another point raised since my last post on which I wanted to touch.

  15. kingles

    @TheLecher: That makes sense. I suppose I was thinking about it from my personal perpective. As in, if I ran say Brazzers(I wish), and Visa came to me with their ‘demands’, I can’t imagine any result other than immediately cutting all ties with Visa…unless the other credit card companies were standing behind Visa. Now that you mention it, it’s certainly reasonable that most people wouldn’t risk their businesses by reacting in the rash manner that I would.

  16. Tyr Garm

    Maybe it’s time for fetish companies and fans to come out closet, pool their resources and fight back.

    One thought is that producers and fans band together and sue companies like Visa on first amendment grounds in federal court. Under various Civil Rights precedents, the government has the right to step in when local, state and even private entities oppress the the Civil Liberties of American citizens.

    It sounds like Visa and others are running from fear of lawsuits. Maybe we should make them scared of our lawsuits. Thoughts?

  17. TheLecher

    @Shakeshift
    I have to disagree with you on a few points.

    First, I don’t agree that, when the RNC votes to include an anti-porn plank in their party platform, they’re really out to get fetish producers and not porn producers. They are absolutely out to get porn. That’s precisely what several groups of very aggressive lobbyists are demanding, and it’s a policy which, most unfortunately, has some measure of support among a portion of their constituency, though hopefully a smaller portion of their constituency than they believe.

    Also, history shows us very clearly that porn is very much on the chopping block, and has been in this country since the 1950s, at least. Nor are fetish producers targeted more often than porn producers. Look back through the cases of federal obscenity prosecutions and tell me where you find fetish producers being sent to prison and their assets being seized. You don’t have to look far to see this happening to porn producers. The most publicized cases of obscenity prosecutions have always been cases brought against pornographers, and porn producers such as Larry Flynt, Rob Zicari, Janet Romano, and Paul Little have all been imprisoned for the “crime” of exercising their right to freedom of expression, and in some cases, not only their corporate assets, but also their personal assets have been seized.

    And I strongly disagree with your statement that “porn LOVES to work hand-in-hand with the government when it comes to stamping out indecency.” Porn has been fighting on the front lines of the battle for free speech since 1969, when the Adult Film Association of America (AFAA) was founded. If you look at the legal battles which have been fought in the US against censorship over the past 40 years, you’ll find that members of the porn industry have consistently played a major role in defending the freedom of expression, not only for themselves, but for everyone. Later (in 1992, I believe) the AFAA joined with the Free Speech Legal Defense Fund to form the Free Speech Coalition (FSC), which is still working to oppose censorship.

    Your characterization of pornographers selling out fetish producers when faced with prosecution is absolutely untrue. Which fetish producers did Rob Zicari sell out during his six year legal battle? Which fetish producers had feds sicked on them by Larry Flynt? Historically, when porn has been backed up against the wall, instead of pointing the finger at someone else in the hopes of diverting government aggression (as you suggested), pornographers have fought back. They haven’t always been successful, but they have won a number of important victories, and those victories benefit all of us, fetish producers included. There may well have been a few isolated cases in which some asshole who worked in porn tried to sell out some fetish producer or producers, but there have also been cases when some asshole who worked in porn sold out other people who worked in porn. No one should take those isolated cases and try to tar the entire porn industry with that brush. I wouldn’t be surprised to find that there have also been asshole fetish producers who have tried to cause problems for their competitors. There are assholes in every line of work, and we shouldn’t try to characterize the entire field in which they work in light of their actions. Assholes will be assholes. Don’t blame it on porn. If it weren’t for porn, it’s likely that very little of the available fetish content would exist today, including the strictly PG-13 stuff.

    And that brings me to another point. You talk as if fetish production and porn production were two entirely different things. It’s true that there are some areas of distinction, and that there is some fetish content produced which wouldn’t count as porn and a lot of porn produced which wouldn’t count as fetish content, but it’s equally true that a lot of what is marketed by mainstream porn caters to what is undeniably a fetish, and that a lot of what is sold in the so-called fetish marketplace is also undeniably pornographic.

    Yes, there’s a big difference between Ron Jeremy fucking a 19 year old and Rachel Steele fucking her 19 year old son. (For anyone here who may not know who Rachel Steele is, she’s the owner of Red MILF Productions, a company which produces fetish content, all of it pornographic, by the way. And just in case someone may have thought that she was really fucking her biological son, no she wasn’t. She was fucking an actor who played her son for the incest fantasy scene(s) she was shooting.) But despite the fact that there’s a difference between those two scenes, and a big difference, the fact is that they are both fetish scenes. “Mainstream” porn is filled with all sorts of fetishes, such as the teen/schoolgirl/barely legal fetish, the MILF/cougar fetish, the cuckold fetish, the latex fetish, the foot fetish, the hosiery fetish, and many others. These fetishes appear in mainstream porn while others (such as mind control fetishes or balloon popping fetishes or gigantism fetishes or superheroine in peril fetishes) generally remain in the background either because they have a broader appeal or because they are generally regarded as less extreme or, possibly, because they require less focus on the fetish, allowing the product to be marketed in the strictly vanilla market to people who may not have an interest in that fetish while still appealing to those who do have that fetish.

    And the production of fetish content which is marketed strictly as such, and not marketed in the mainstream porn market, has also benefited significantly from the involvement of members of the porn industry, whether it be the distinguished actors, actresses, directors, and producers from porn’s past who have since retired from the mainstream side of production and now produce fetish content instead; or the directors, producers, and crew members who are still very much involved in producing mainstream porn, but who also produce fetish content as a sideline; or the porn actors and actresses who also provide a large percentage of the fetish talent pool. Then there’s the fact that the porn industry is largely responsible for establishing the infrastructure through which most of the available fetish content is marketed.

    And again, not only does much of mainstream porn incorporate various fetishes, but much of the available content on the fetish market is pornographic, and not only those productions which have had the involvement of members of the porn industry. And ultimately, the only reason for the existence of a fetish market is sexual fetishes or paraphilia. Even the majority of the PG-13 content is still produced and distributed in order to supply the demand of some paraphilia. I really get annoyed sometimes when I see some people around here talking as though porn has no place on this site and has no legitimate role in the production of fetish videos. I do understand that some people don’t like to see hardcore sex, and that there are even some people who don’t care for softcore sex in their fetish content, and I have no objection to that. As long as the thing which floats your boat doesn’t involve harming any person or violating the rights of any person, then I’m in favor of you being able to find, buy, and view any type of content you like. But I expect people to show the same tolerance for my interests (and the interests of others), and I also wish that people would stop being hypocrites. Apart from the very rarest of exceptions, all of the content reviewed on this site is intended to provide some degree of sexual titillation and/or gratification, and all of the people who visit this site have a sexualized interest in the content reviewed here.

    Fetish content and porn (even mainstream porn) are not two completely separate and unrelated things. Rather, they are sister industries, and in many instances and at many levels, they are the same industry. And the porn industry is NOT working in concert with any political interest to use fetish content as a scapegoat to take the heat off of porn.

  18. TheLecher

    @kingles
    I think your theoretical response to Visa is better and, in the long run, more sensible (and even more reasonable) than the one which porn companies have been giving. Like you, if I had been in charge of Brazzers when Visa came along with their demands, I would have told them to fuck off.

    Yes, I do understand why these porn companies have caved in. And no, I don’t blame them for caring about their financial solvency. But I don’t think it’s a smart move, or a very reasonable move, to hand over power and control over your company to a third party who has no interest in your bottom line, who neither knows nor cares what your customers want, and who has already demonstrated their willingness (and even their intent) to harm your business.

    Imagine that the ACLU had elected members of the Ku Klux Klan to a majority of the positions on their board of directors, including the position of Chairman of the Board. What’s going on right now with some porn companies is actually pretty similar to that. Not only has the fox gotten into the henhouse, but the hens have accepted the fox as their leader. These porn companies have allowed Visa to take final control over what content they are allowed to release, in full awareness that Visa intends to censor them. That’s not the wisest of moves, in my opinion.

    The problem with these attempts to satisfy or placate the censors by giving in to their demands in the hope that they’ll eventually be satisfied with your abject obedience and will leave you alone, apart from the fact that it’s the wrong thing to do and, in my opinion, completely reprehensible, is the fact that it doesn’t work. The censors don’t eventually become satisfied with the amount of censorship they’ve enacted and stop censoring. As I’ve said before, censors don’t stop censoring until someone makes them stop.

  19. TheLecher

    @Tyr Garm
    Although I’m not at all convinced that Visa is doing all of this out of a desire to duck lawsuits, I don’t reject the idea, either.

    That being said, I really doubt that a lawsuit predicated on a violation of civil liberties would get anywhere in this case. It seems to me that all Visa has to do is say that they’re only setting and following their own corporate policies, and that they aren’t forcing any vendor to comply with them, which is true. Brazzers and PornPros and everyone else who has bowed down to Visa could have refused to do so. Those companies had the option of refusing to alter their content. Yes, they probably would have lost their Visa accounts as a consequence, but I’m pretty sure that Visa can successfully argue that they have a right to decide their own corporate practices and business model and to decide with what companies they will and won’t do business. And honestly, they do have that right, and I think it’s likely that a court would uphold it.

    The problem, as I see it, is that they have such a large market share that they’re able to use this right of theirs to ram their policies on content down the throats of many production companies. And those companies which don’t comply really do lose their Visa billing, and either bleed out from the loss of revenue or have to find other ways of selling their product.

    Now, I’m not saying that there isn’t any recourse in court. One of the several plans of action which I had intended to suggest to Brazzers was that they should put out some feelers to gauge interest among other porn production companies in filing a class action lawsuit against Visa on the grounds that Visa’s restrictive policies had resulted in loss of revenue and material harm to their businesses. (I never suggested any of the ideas because I was informed that the decision makers at Brazzers weren’t interested in even discussing any course of action which brought them up against Visa. Their one plan was, and still is, as far as I know, to comply, comply, comply.) This seems to me to be much more likely to stick than a charge that Visa is violating civil liberties. But even with this idea, I don’t think that there’s a great deal of likelihood of success. It seems to me that Visa can probably still rely on the argument that compliance with their policies was entirely voluntary on the part of any of those companies. I think that a class action lawsuit along these lines has a better chance than one predicated on civil liberties, but I think it’s still a long shot, and probably a waste of time and money.

    However, I am not a lawyer, so no one should take what I’ve just said as being in any way authoritative. I’m not qualified to give legal advice, and I’m not trying to do so. I’m just expressing my opinion. And part of my opinion is that the way for porn (and the people, since, when Visa threatens the freedom of expression, it’s everyone’s freedom they threaten) to beat Visa is through free-market ingenuity, solidarity, and an unyielding resolve to not give in or give up.

    The solidarity part is very important. Just mobilizing fans of superheroine in peril content probably won’t accomplish much if the fans of pantyhose encasement fetish and belly punching fetish and back breaking fetish and all of the other fetishes aren’t mobilized, as well. And even then, without joining with the fans (and yes, the producers) of mainstream porn, it still isn’t likely that you’ll accomplish much. Every consumer’s right to choose for themselves what sort of content they will read, watch, and listen to is on the line, and every producer’s right to produce the type of content which they wish to produce is on the line, whether in the fetish community or in the mainstream porn community. And this has implications which go so far beyond adult entertainment. If the freedom of expression is successfully struck down and trampled under foot here, then it opens up the door for the eventual further erosion of that freedom. In other words, even if you’re someone who doesn’t have an interest in any fetish and never watches porn, if you care at all about your freedom, this still affects you.

    So everyone should be involved in trying to beat this threat, not just the fetish producers and performers and fans, and not just the mainstream porn producers and performers and fans, and not just the people who feel strongly about freedom, but everyone who falls into any of those categories. And the first thing to be done is to make people aware of what’s happening and what’s at risk here. The more people who know about it, the more people who are talking about it, the more people who are pissed the hell off about it, the better, in my opinion. Because the more people who know about this and care about it and are talking about it, the more likely that a workable solution is going to be found and implemented.

    As I’ve already mentioned, for quite some time now, I’ve been thinking of possible courses of action which could be taken to deal with this problem, and I’m sure that I’m not the only one who’s been thinking about possible solutions. In fact, I’d be surprised if every idea which has occurred to me hasn’t also occurred to several other people. I doubt that I’ve come up with anything which someone else hasn’t also thought of. But until a lot more people are talking about this and demanding action and are willing to take action themselves, it’s not going to matter how many ideas we’ve had.

  20. kingles

    @TheLecher: It’s going to be like death by a 1000 cuts for producers who comply with Visa’s ‘guidelines’. History teaches us that ‘appeasment’ doesn’t work, so as you say, Visa won’t stop their censoring efforts on their own.

    The answer to me is to hurt Visa’s bottom line. If people started using alternative methods to pay for their porn/fetish materials, be it getting a different card just for that purpose or using Paypal, etc. where applicable…Visa would be sure to take notice of that. It might also stiffen the backbone of porn/fetish producers if there wasn’t such a high percentage of people using Visa to buy their products. It’s time to get a new credit card. Because it pisses me off that not only are they trying to censor porn/fetish, but that they continue to profit off it hand over fist all the while.

  21. TheLecher

    @kingles
    The problem with trying to hurt Visa’s bottom line is that you have to dig very, very, very deep to find their bottom line.

    Now don’t get me wrong. I’m not saying that what you suggest is a bad idea. In fact, for the past several months, I’ve been urging friends of mine to stop using Visa cards and switch to cards from another company, and I’ve been making the same recommendation to some people from various internet forums. But in order for it to make any difference to Visa, they would have to stop using Visa cards entirely. It wouldn’t be enough to use alternate methods of payment for porn and fetish purchases only, and I’ll tell you why I think that.

    While I’m not aware of any reliable figures which are readily available on consumer spending on porn in the US, most of the estimate which are floating around out there suggest that US consumers spend between 10 billion and 14 billion dollars on porn every year. Now, not all of that spending would be on credit cards, and however much actually was on credit cards, not all of it would be on Visa cards. Based on the numbers I put forward in an earlier post in this thread, I think that, whatever percentage of the 10 to 14 billion was credit card spending, Visa would have slightly more than 51% of that action. But for the purposes of making this illustration even more dramatic, let’s assume the following:
    1. ALL of the 10 to 14 billion is credit card spending, and
    2. ALL of that goes to Visa.

    Now let’s suppose that every person who uses Visa to pay for porn or fetish material were to stop doing so overnight and started using other credit cards instead, so that Visa loses roughly 10 to 14 billion dollars worth of annual purchase volume. How much of an impact would that make on their bottom line? In order to answer that question, we need to have some idea of the annual purchase volume which Visa handles. Fortunately, for the purposes of this discussion, that information is available.

    For the seven year period from 2005 to 2011 (Figures for 2012 aren’t available yet, as the year isn’t over.), Visa average annual purchase volume for the US alone (remember that they do business globally) was 787 billion, with their smallest volume for any year in that range being 674 billion and the largest being 888 billion. Based on the average figure of 787 billion, and assuming the more generous estimate of 14 billion annually being spent on porn in the US (And again, we’re assuming that all of the porn purchases are made with credit cards and that Visa is the only card used, neither of which is true.), we can see that the annual US porn trade constitutes a meager 1.8% of Visa’s total annual purchase volume. And, as has already been remarked, the actual figure would be significantly smaller, perhaps by as much as one full percentage point.

    What all of this means is that if every single porn production company and porn distributor in the US immediately stopped accepting Visa payments and no porn was purchased with Visa cards anymore, the affect on Visa’s bottom line would be very small. Now no company, no matter how big, would miss out on the fact that billions of dollars worth of trade was going elsewhere, but I doubt that the impact on their bottom line would anywhere near great enough to make them willing to change their policy and abandon their efforts to censor porn production.

    And again, I’m not scoffing at the idea of hurting Visa’s bottom line. As I said, I’ve been trying to encourage people to take that approach, myself. But I think that two things need to be borne in mind.
    1. In order to make Visa take notice, using other credit cards for porn and fetish purchases only won’t be enough. People would have to stop using their Visa cards entirely and use other credit cards for ALL of their purchases going forward. And it would be even more helpful if, instead of just not using their Visa cards anymore, they actually called Visa up and canceled their accounts. And I think it would even be helpful if people who took that route told whatever Visa rep they spoke to that they were canceling because of Visa’s restrictive policies about what vendors are allowed to sell. If enough people did this, it might just make a difference.
    2. Even if a lot of people went the route I’ve just described, we have to be prepared for the possibility (perhaps even the likelihood) that it isn’t going to change Visa’s policies in the slightest. And if that’s the case, then porn (and fetish) producers will have to find a way to carry on without Visa. And, at the present time, they aren’t making any efforts toward finding a solution which would allow them to do that. So, in addition to making our displeasure known to Visa, we, the consumers, need to make our displeasure known to porn and fetish producers. We need to let those who are bowing down to Visa know that we WILL take our business elsewhere and support the producers who refuse to be censored.

    I do want to point out that I entirely agree with you that an additional benefit of consumers switching from Visa to other credit cards, and a benefit which could still have a positive effect, even if Visa takes no notice of the change, is that, as you mentioned, it will help to reinforce to the producers that the consumers aren’t going to just sit by while all of this censorship is perpetrated. As you mentioned, it might give some of these producers/production companies a bit more courage when it comes to defying Visa. At the very least, it will make it a bit easier for them to imagine business without Visa, perhaps help them to see that it is possible to carry on without the world’s largest credit card company. The less of their business which comes from Visa, and the more which comes through other methods of payment, the better, even if it has no direct impact on Visa.

  22. Christina totally dominates the g/g market and I am a huge fan of her work. It is one of the reasons I don’t actually produce similar styles of video very often. Having met her briefly at Fetish Con I can say she is even more beautiful and dynamic in person, and she was incredibly nice to me, offering tons of great advice to me as a new producer.

    I do produce a few hardcore b/g videos every couple of months and lean more towards male villains, or sometime male heroes tricked or mind controlled into f–ing the heroines.

    one of our earlier videos has a good variety

    And any videos keyword Warlock or Night Goblin will have dominant male villains.

    Also Here is a Hero being forced to f— a villainess while his superheroine gf watches

    And a villinesse possessing a superheroin’s body to f— a hero

    I do love action scene and special effects and we have been getting better at both. A year ago we were shooting in a garage so, we are really trying to step it up

  23. Joe Customer

    TheLecher saxman314
    Shakeshift NZT
    rizo kingles Tyr Garm
    awesome awesome awesome conversation

    i feel like i went to sleep and woke up in a graduate business class
    the truth is out there !
    ok . . but . .back to the vid review
    TV,s Wonder Woman (Lynday Carter)
    battled the men and won . . and many times lost to dynamic women
    when i see a man(criminal) beating on a woman(superheroine)
    and shes powerless not fighting back and squealing
    I start to cringe
    men beat women up in life daily, its not a fantasy its not fun
    seems like men who make the videos dont like to lose an inch
    most vids a woman is beaten before the opening credits
    they rarely fight back, they only win after they are raped
    if that

    a fantasy is a woman winning a battle over a man
    on the other hand if its girl on girl
    it doesnt really matter who comes out on top
    im not so in love with girl on girl action
    but at least it seems fair