UPDATED: Heroine Legends Episode 2.1 & HUGE SALE!

HLS2E1 1 175x98 UPDATED: Heroine Legends Episode 2.1 & HUGE SALE!UPDATED: See sale details below! It’s been a long time since we’ve had a Heroine Legends episode to discuss, but the company has just released the premier of its second season, and since it has been a while, we’ll appraoch this review “Q & A” style to hopefully bring everyone up to speed.

See details of Heroine Legends’ Huge Sale after the review!

Spoilers below!

Q. I can’t remember. How did last season end?

A. Here is a link to the original review of the finale of season 1. I tried to keep it spoiler-free, but the short version is that there was a gigantic fight at the end of the episode, and Thorne was taken prisoner by Furis.

Q. What was your overall feeling about season 1? Positives first.

A. A big world was created, there was a story with continuity, and a seemingly never-ending wave of new babes kept on being introduced. The fight choreography was generally good, and often it was outstanding. The sheer scope was astonishing at times and a rarity for this genre.

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Q. Any negatives?

A. Ironically enough, I just listed it under the positives category and that’s the big world. I honestly think it was a little too big. Maybe the problem was that it got too big too fast. There were so many characters and so many episodes, I was having trouble keeping track of who was who, who was where, and who was on what side. I generally don’t mention other producers in reviews for films that they are not associated with but I think it’s the best way I can explain what I mean. If you got every actor from Next Global Crisis together and took a photo, I could easily name every character they played and what their super power was. I couldn’t do that with Heroine Legends. In fact I went back and rewatched the big fight that took place at the end of season 1. Out of all the characters that were on screen, I could probably name five and I watched every episode. That’s not a good thing and it may be something that keeps the casual fan away. I think the producers are working on addressing this problem as Logan has referenced that they cut a number of characters which was probably a good idea.

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Q. Is Kristina Hess still hot?

A. Sorry, but no. She’s gained a hundred pounds, shaved her head, and has some kind of strange skin condition thing going on. OK, that’s a lie. She looks better than ever. A perfect 10. I just don’t think it’s fair that she gets to walk around looking like that and I have to walk around looking like, well, me.

Q. What’s the deal with the villain?

A. I know two things. His name is Fusion and he has crazy eyes. Please take that as a positive actor who plays Fusion because your crazy eyes brought back a lot of fond memories for me. Many of the great “heel” wrestlers from the glory days of WWF wresting had crazy eyes and this guy has that look down cold. Think, The Warlord and The Barbarian from The Powers of Pain tag team. I’m getting was off track here, but if anyone out there does get the Powers of Pain reference, let me know.

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Q. So what happens in this episode?

A. This isn’t so much a fight but a complete beatdown of their flagship heroine. Thorne awakens in a room and is quickly confronted by Fusion. Thorne is quite overconfident, borderline cocky that she can easily take him. She talks some trash, throws a punch which Fusion dodges, and then the destruction commences. Thorne is punched in the face and stomach repeatedly, given multiple low blows, bearhugged, thrown into the wall, choked, and given a backbreaker. Her only offense is through the use of her powers and it’s entirely ineffective. Fusion hits Thorne with his power and that results in her costume top and bottom being ripped as you’ve seen in preview photos.

After Fusion choke slams Thorne to the ground, he cops a cheap feel (7:47, I saw that Fusion) and keeps trying to make Thorne beg for mercy which she eventually does. That’s not good enough for Fusion as he just keeps pummeling her. Down and almost out a woman who I think played Thorne’s friend in an earlier episode appears with a knife and stabs Thorne. Some friend. And we are left with that cliffhanger.

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Q. Is Thorne really dead?

A. Nope. She does have a new costume coming. I think this is kind of a re-birth storyline. Once she is revived, Thorne can reach her full potential or something like that.

Q. Any thoughts on the future?

A. Yeah, from the preview photos that I’ve seen and from what Logan has mentioned, two new characters named Vega and Dark Vega are going to be introduced. Both are characters that have a basis in the Supergirl mythos, although one is apparently good and the other evil. I think it’s important that there should be characters with different power levels in these stories. What I mean is that it seems like most Heroine Legend characters could stand pretty evenly with every other character. But if they start to include characters like Vega who is listed as having super strength and being bulletproof, that sets so many story possibilities up. It also sets up great opportunities for peril. I’m all in for something like Thorne vs. Dark Vega. How would Thorne stand up against a super strong, virtually invulnerable powerhouse? I’d like to find out. Call it a fan request.

Anyway, if you are a person who has been looking for a one sided demolition of a overconfident heroine, this is it

Note: This release includes a secret photo along with the video!

Purchase Impending Death at Heroine Legends

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“Heroine Legends” has announced a Holiday/Clearance/New Season SALE!!!

We have received numerous requests for this, so we decided to drop Season 1 & The Academy prices and place The Heroine Academy & The Torture Chamber on a discontinue status (they will no longer be available after December 31st, 2012). We also included feature packs as well as the Power Hungry, Return of the Black Queen, & Ground Zero series’ in this sale!! Starting now, here are the items currently on sale (all prices drastically reduced; VIP applies!)

Heroine Academy 1: Morgan – $5.99
Heroine Academy 2: Georgia – $5.99
Heroine Academy 3: Melody – $5.99
Heroine Academy 4: Tina – $5.99
Heroine Academy 5: Candace – $5.99
Heroine Academy 6: Alexa – $5.99
Heroine Academy Feature Pack (all 6 films) – $24.99

The Torture Chamber 1: Patricia – $5.99
The Torture Chamber 2: Ashley – $5.99
The Torture Chamber 3: Becky – $5.99
The Torture Chamber 4: Melody – $5.99
The Torture Chamber 5: Georgia – $5.99
The Torture Chamber 6: Rain – $5.99
The Torture Chamber 7: Morgan – $5.99
The Torture Chamber 8: Candace – $5.99
The Torture Chamber 9: Virga – $5.99
The Torture Chamber Feature Pack (all 9 films) – $29.99

The Academy 1: Tina – $14.99
The Academy 2: Brittany – $14.99
The Academy 3: Jane – $14.99
The Academy 4: Anya – $14.99
The Academy 5: Brittany – $14.99
The Academy 6: Georgia – $14.99
The Academy 7: Anya – $14.99
The Academy Feature Pack (all 7 films) – $59.99
The Academy Fight Compilation – $39.99

Episode 1.1: Aura Control (Thorne) – $19.99
Episode 1.2: Inner Conflict (Aurora) – $19.99
Episode 1.3: Delusional (Hawke) – $19.99
Episode 1.4: Unintentional (Tempest) – $14.99
Episode 1.5: Confusion (Thorne) – $19.99
Episode 1.6: Sibling Rivalry (Virga) – $14.99
Episode 1.7: Fighting Destiny (Aurora) – $19.99
Episode 1.8: Consequence (Lilac) – $14.99
Episode 1.9: Ambition (Hawke) – $19.99
Episode 1.10: Afraid (Rain) – $14.99
Episode 1.11: Awakening (Thorne & Tempest) – $22.99
Episode 1.12: Answers (Virga) – $14.99
Episode 1.13: Fate (Thorne [Season Finale]) – $24.99
Season 1 Feature Pack (all 13 films) – $149.99

Power Hungry 1 (Luna, Astra, & Muse) – $14.99
Power Hungry 2 (Luna, Muse, & Petunia) – $14.99
Power Hungry 3 (Luna, Petunia, & Thundra) – $14.99
Power Hungry Feature Pack – $34.99

Ground Zero 1 (Venus) – $22.99
Ground Zero 2 (Celestia & Nightshadow) – $22.99
Ground Zero 3 (Jade, Nightshadow, Petunia, Allura, & Iris) – $22.99
Ground Zero Feature Pack – $49.99

Return of the Black Queen Feature Pack (lowered within the last 2 weeks, remaining on sale) – $109.99
Return of the Black Queen Feature Pack (PG-13, ‘less foot’ version added) – $99.99

Visit Heroine Legends for more info!

  1. Im not trying to be a whinning willy, but 34 dollars is quite a bit of money. I want to get this, but that a lot of money for me. Just saying with respect. it looks really fucking good. Im just having a hard time parting with 30 dollars. Could anyone tell me why it is 30 dollars?

  2. 35 bucks for a 14min video filmed in a empty bedroom? I’m not familiar with this company but it basically looks like a bunch of peril happens for the sake of putting in peril. I might be a customer at 14 dollars but 35 is sort of ridiculous.

  3. @David: Hi David, I’ll leave this open to other viewers to post their replies to this as well, but we price our videos NOW (some videos have been re-priced) on the content of ACTION & PERIL in the episode, rather than the old dollar-per-minute-ish method. I feel this way, the viewers gets what they want and the price is justified rather than the viewer purchasing a 40 minute video with 30-minutes of dialogue. This film contains a one-sided beatdown for a majority of the film which makes it almost non-stop action for the duration of the length. Action Elements are listed on the “Heroine Legends” website on the episode page here:

    http://www.heroinelegends.com/2-1-impending-death

    You will see a nice lengthy list of included elements here! Another perk to purchasing, though it has no influence on the price, is the FREE pin-up style photo that’s included which Thorne poses for YOU!! ;) If you do decide to purchase, I’m sure you will be happy you did!!

    Looking forward to everyone’s feedback, reviews, comments, etc for this episode now that we are back in release-mode!! Thanks for commenting, David!!

    Logan

  4. @Chad: Purchasing or not purchasing is definitely everyone’s individual choice– this episode continues our storyline and is also the result of a custom film, so the peril is not there just to be there– it’s there for our custom buyer (who loved the film) and to carry our storyline forward. ;)

    Logan

  5. flip_flop

    I went ahead and bought this one, because there aren’t that many “one-sided beatdown” vids out there!

  6. Im leaning towards the buy. Was just wondering about the price. Looks really good, love one sided fights, and the backbreaker looks intense. not sure about the bearhugs because there are no screens for it. but over all it looks good.

    @flip_flop, What are your thoughts on it?

  7. @flip_flop: Thank you and we hope you enjoyed it! We are going to have a few more– Episode 2.6 has a shorter one-sided ending beatdown of a new Aurora (who is killed **SPOILER**) and we are prepping one for Celestia (who will also die)!!

    @David: There are actually 3 back-breakers in this film ;)

    Logan

  8. I bucked up and bought it. And loved it, just wish the bearhug was frontal. But I love this video.

  9. @David: Glad you loved it!! We will continue to do more like this periodically too! We got a new editor on this one and he did a great job– I actually filmed more coverage of this bear hug, but it didn’t end up in this cut– we will extend and use more in the future– and I’ll keep mixing it up with both types and a new side-type bear hug as we continue!! Thanks for watching!!

    Logan

  10. So, for $35 … does she die at the end? Because I’d buy it at that price point if it had the ending I wanted, but $35 is really steep and more than I think any film in this kind of genre, so in he future I wouldn’t exceed $30, and that’s only if there’s two endings or an ending where the heroine bites it.

    If it’s more than $24.99 in a more traditional superheroine peril film you’ll price yourself out of the market, I think.

  11. @DKM: I’m not sure if you had the chance to read the review or not, but Sidekick did state that Thorne does indeed die in this episode. Also, we’ve had this debate regarding pricing many times on the forums and I know that other producers have had similar debates. Our pricing is now done regarding action content and I set the price once I get the final cut back. As for the price being too high, though it may be too high for YOU, the general audience has proven otherwise as this film has set a new record for “opening day” sales and thus far, the reviews have been excellent. We do run weekly sales on older films and when Season 3 launches, Season 2 prices may drop a little, but just from the response and number of viewers so far on this episode, we’re right where we need to be regarding price.

    Thank you to everyone who has purchased the film. I’d love to hear your thoughts regarding the included wallpapers– is this something you’d like to see continued?

    Logan

  12. The wall paper is good. More, longer frontal bearhug scenes, bearhug kos, and backbreakers. All else is GOOOD. Those are my only critiques. I did like the wall paper.

  13. @David: Glad you liked the wallpaper– we have one for Vega and one for Allura ready to go with their next releases! All of those moves will be added in subsequent episodes; thanks for the feedback!!

    Logan

  14. There’s no denying that this looks like a great video. As with others, it was the price that put me off too, cos based on the trailer and the synopsis, it would normally have been a pretty instant buy for me.

    With regards to the Cost per Action concept, I find it hard not make comparisons with pricing across the rest of the market. As a fight fan, I’ve bought numerous videos (from wrestling to more ‘fight scene’ punching/kicking style videos) that consist of nothing but action, and 99% of those videos have been priced along the the industry standard of $1-per-minute. And even within the Superheroine genre, some companies are producing videos that are all fight and no plot, and again, they are still priced in that usual pricing structure.

    The irony is that I can see the justification for a higher priced video with LESS action, when it’s a video that has more scenes, more actors, more FX, etc. But when we’re talking about what is essentially a one-on-one fight scene, then comparisons with the pricing of other fighting videos (Superheroine or otherwise) across the board are inevitable.

  15. For your next videos, it would be great to see some frontal backbreaker KO’s with the heroine going limp and just dangling there for a little while. It would also be great to see extended shots of the KOed heroine’s closed eyes and open mouth – that just sells the ko so much more. Thanks!

  16. farfignewton

    I’m fine with the pricing of this video since the heroine peril content was high (no buyer’s remorse), and the actress is not only really sexy but does a great job (and we’ve been waiting for a scene like this with Kristina since s1e1).

    I was a little gun shy after the black queen, since it was mostly foot stuff (I understand it was a custom). I think most of the ‘backlash’ against pricing was because people paid ~30, and only the first few minutes were peril (in the black queen, episode 1).

    I think pricing by content is a good way to do it. It keeps fluff away (IE how can I make this video 40 minutes long??), and better ensures I get value for my money.

    Keep it up!

  17. 35 dollars for 14 minutes? In empty bedroom? Like with Christina’s videos, you’ve moved beyond the norm. Pass.

  18. @Sym: I hear everything you’re saying and it basically comes down to this: gone are the days that I compare myself to any other producer. I’ve gone through my share of pricing structure changes and to be honest, most of the time it was unnecessary headache when most of our viewers aren’t that concerned with the price, but rather the content. For anyone who has followed along with HeroineLegends, those people know without a doubt that I work with my fans to include content that they want to see. So I came up with my own system for how I price the films I produce and if I were in the market to buy these films, that’s how I would want it priced– so that’s how I priced it and why.

    @Fan421: we can definitely do the back breaker KO with the body going limp for an episode finisher– for the KO/death scene extending, I kinda felt we stayed on her for quite a while… Did you mean this specific scene or was there a specific angle you meant?

    @farfignewton: I agree! I don’t want to film unnecessary scenes or just add random content to hit a specific length just to add “filler” because the price was based on length. Sure, this video isn’t 25 minutes like some of our other films, but the story is there and the action is definitely there for a majority — based on the reviews and number of purchases, I’m happy with my decision… And I’m glad you like it!! :)

    @RalphM: same as I said before– the “norm” doesn’t matter to me… Especially in a film like this where I guarantee that after a few minutes in, not only will you forget they are in an empty Malibu guest house, but it also won’t even matter where they are. ;)

    Logan

  19. I’m still stunned people are getting into this price argument again. Firstly in what world is $34 a lot of money? Secondly it seems the people that DID purchase the video all quite enjoyed it so it must be worth it no? You can’t just break things down mathematically in terms of running time and price. Production values, acting, fight choreography, etc. and the overall quality of the product must be taken into consideration. I believe Heroine Legends is one of the best, if not the best, at those.

    On top of the fact that this video is pretty much all beef and no filler. It’s not like it’s 12 minutes of talking and 2 minutes of action. This genre has changed and evolved, since I first started following it way back when. Things are going to get more expensive in terms of paying actors, editors, finding shooting locations and so forth. I know everyone wishes every video would be 40 minutes for $10, but that’s pretty unrealistic.

  20. @Bob It’s not a matter of $35 being a lot of money it it’s own right. It’s about it being a lot of money for a 14 minute video.

    Again, I’m speaking as a fight fan, so maybe my options are less limited than fans who’s interest is PURELY in Superheroine/Peril action. But if I can pick up (as a random example of a genuine video) a very well produced 16 minute fighting video, featuring bare fisted fighting, backbreakers scissorholds, bearhugs, grapevine, full nelsons, kicks, head & stomach punches, elbows, knees, choking and a beatdown for $17, and other productions of similar quality in a similar price range, then where’s the incentive for me to pick a video costing almost double that amount?

    Again, I do not doubt for a second that this is an awesome video. But is it twice as awesome others available to me? Probably not, no.

    Understand, I don’t say this because I want or would expect Logan to lower his prices. Or, Mick, because I need to borrow money from me Mum (which would be something of a challenge, given how she passed away a few years ago). I just think it’s right that Logan hears every side of the debate. If sales at the current price are doing well, then it doesn’t really matter.

    I do think this thread has highlighted that more people would buy the video if it was cheaper. But it’s also suggested some people will pay pretty much anything. So it’s safe to say that HL have done their sums right!

  21. I can see both sides well. Just let me be the first to say that Im a tight wad. Biggest tight wad you may meet. And normally, when I spend 15 on videos at the end, I come out feeling like a jack ass. Like, “wow, I wasted my money, why the fuck did I do that.” But on this vid tbh, didnt feel that at all. I was quite satisfied with it. Even for the money. I’ve just started to really follow this fetish thing, like actually become a member, and have followed a lot of companies, and this company has produced the best work thus far. Next to akiba. But I havent bought one of their vids. So idk, if you were like me before I bought the vid, 35 was alot, if you are like me after, It was worth it. If its too much, hey, you have the right to tap. But im sure that if anyone does give it a chance, they will like it.

    And I agree with Fan421, A frontal bearhug ko with the heroine limp and her back arched for a bit at the end sounds awesome! Especially on Thorne. Cant wait to see more.

  22. Redmountain

    $35 is a lot of money considering NGC puts out a much better product with much better fights and actors/actresses for nearly half the cost of this. There are other producers also putting out content just as good if not better with video prices in the $9.99-$15 range for the same amount of time.

    I could see $20ish, but $35 is beyond the norm and just not worth it.

  23. Quick question, does Thorne put up a fight or is this pretty much a one sided beatdown?

  24. @Jerry: This is a one-sided beatdown. Thorne throws one ineffective punch and uses her power once, also ineffectively.

    Logan

  25. I agree with Red Mountain about the breakdown. Next Global Crisis puts out a better product with better actors actresses storylines and better fight scenes for about half the cost. Ain’t seeing the appeal here.

  26. @ Sym: This video is all fighting as a one-sided beatdown. If the price is too high, even with a VIP discount, then it’s always possible to wait for a sale next year on it or wait until Season 3 launches and the price will go down. Pricing will stay the way it is as this is BY FAR the BEST launch we have had in “Heroine Legends” history– thank you to everyone who purchased this video and sent their comments and feedback!!

    @Redmountain & @RalphM: Hey guys, not much I can say to you on this topic other than I’m glad you found the production company that meets your needs and wants! This is all about entertainment and there is no way every production team will satisfy every customer. Even with huge productions like “Batman: The Dark Knight” and with the mass appeal that film had, there were still people who hated the film, so we can only target the vast majority that we can. Our actresses are working Hollywood actresses and I train them myself for on-camera presentation in my productions whether it be “Heroine Legends” or other– they are not fetish models so they will not act accordingly if that’s what you’re looking for. Also, I am a fight choreographer for many Hollywood productions and a martial arts consultant on many TV shows that you are probably familiar with. I stick to a Hong-Kong based style of fighting, but adjust to the fact that these girls are in high-heels with no pads. My actresses take hits, take real falls, etc, so I’m extremely happy with their performances. Again, the storylines are going to be different and if you are happier with those of NGC, then I am happy your found your studio to follow! :) (Also, I have noticed a few people who comment about these types of things who haven’t yet made a purchase– kind of impossible to put up an argument there… even if you bought one or two considering they are all completely different.)

    Which leads me to:

    We are going to start a sale tonight on the catalogue of “Heroine Academy”, “The Academy”, & “The Torture Chamber” videos!! We will be deleting them from our catalogue as they were all trial and error series’– so if you’re interested in picking any of them up, they will be going on sale later today/tonight!! VIP members will receive an email about it and we will post it on the front page of our website once the sale is up (we have to adjust all the codes in our billing system first)–

    Thanks!!

    Logan

  27. ShadowFax

    Hello, just offering my two cents. I do have concerns with the price point, not shocking I’m sure. Heroine Legends will need to be careful I think. They’ll know better than anyone what their sales are doing. At 35 for 14-17 minutes it is very VERY possible to wind up pricing yourself out of business when measured against competition. It might work very well once, it might work very well two or three times then overtime begin to lose effect as people find it harder and harder to scrounge up money. I’m sure HL will be watching their sales and come to a decision themselves over if this strategy is an effective one or not.

    As it is for me, as awesome as the video looks (and it does look awesome. I’ve wanted a Kitanna style character to watch beat down like this for awhile) $35 dollars is far and away, more money than I can afford to put down (so if your asking in which world $35 dollars is a lot of money, look no further, it is in this one. Work is hard to find, and pays shit where you can find it) It just is. So while I am looking for a video to purchase right now, and it would have been this one, I literally HAVE to look elsewhere on my budget.

    I’d like to point out again like a few others have that this isn’t a mark against HL because it looks like they’ve made a solid video here, but they should hear all the places their customers are coming from to find the most effective strategy they can, It may well be I can pick this one up sometime later though when it has been discounted some day so we’ll see!

    laterz

  28. @ShadowFax: Everyone’s budget is different and we know that… all we can do is judge each video separately and put a price on it from there as fair as we feel. We factor action, our costs, production value in contrast to others, etc and each video will have it’s own price. For a beatdown video with Thorne, the video is going to cost a little more… why? Because of supply and demand. Thorne is our best-seller, never lost a fight in our series– or not at least to the extend our viewers ask for, and she is the one you would want to see with a destroyed costume the most. We considered $39.99 for a brief moment but even WE felt that was overkill for the length of the film… but then again, it’s almost all ACTION and ALL beatdown. Anyway, we landed on $34.99 ($31.49 for VIP) and by the numbers and success, we see that it was the right choice. Episode 2.2 doesn’t yet have a price yet, but once I see the length and amount of action, I will be able to gauge it from there. I know there are 3 fights in Episode 2.2: Vega (as Angel) vs Dragos (male), Vega vs Diabla (female), and Vega vs Malek (male). There’s peril, a tied match, a lost match, and a won fight ending with a stand-off. I incorporated A LOT into this episode BUT until I see the final cut, I won’t know the pricing on it. Episode 2.6 right now is up in the air. Until I finish the filming on it (we had to cut a scene short so I need to come up with another scene for length and content – I will be able to add elements our viewers have requested)… anyway, that was a lot of explaining to say something you probably already know– we hope you get a chance at some point to see this episode though– it was a custom and we LOVED filming it and the final product!!!!

    Logan

  29. Hello logan

    not wanting to disturb him there any forecast for 2.2 with Vega or the demon Within?

    Thank you for your attention

    valugi

  30. Considering buying. But before I do, please let me know how many stomach blows there are. Thanks.

    Doug

  31. @valugi: Hi, Valugi– “The Demon Within” is with a new editor we trust now. The last editor didn’t do such a great job with it and we won’t release a sub-par project, so we gave it to an editor we’ve worked with a lot and he will have it back to us within 2 weeks. Episode 2.2 is with the same editor who completed 2.1 and we expect to have that back within a week or so– we are getting back on track with regular releases, so as soon as I receive it back, I will launch it! Episode 2.3 is also in post-production with another editor and we have 7 other episodes filmed including “Agent Files 4: Passing the Test” featuring Allura as a Heroine. We’re excited to get them out to you guys!!

    @Doug: I honestly can’t count them. She is repeatedly bashed in the face, then stomach, then her head is repeatedly slammed against a wall, then her back is brutally damaged, then her face is punched while on the ground, then more stomach punches followed by a series of low blows, then 3 back-breakers with more stomach punches… it’s probably around 30 but it’s a lot to count!

    Logan

  32. @Doug: For shits and giggles, we just went and counted them for you. Without including the stomps or hits to her side or back, there are 24 stomach blows / belly punches. You’ll enjoy it! ;)

    Logan

  33. @Logan: Sorry to be a pain in the ass with this but could you tell the methods for KOs on your next releases or if there is any? Are they mostly form the fights?

    Thanks.

  34. @Maar13: I know off the top of my head that Episode 2.6 contains a neck snap along with Path to Darkness, which contains several KOs via multiple neck snaps, power overdose, chloroform, etc. The Demon Within features a neck snap at the end, a chloroform, and a use of powers. Episodes 2.4 & 2.5 aren’t finished yet so I’m not sure about the KO methods on those. Episodes 2.2 & 2.7 do not feature any KOs, but contain continuous fighting in both episodes. We have been updating the website to contain this information for you guys so you can google: “HeroineLegends.com: KO” and see all of the episodes that feature KOs as we update!

    Logan

  35. @Logan:

    Great! Thanks a lot for the info, and just for the record, I think your production values are great…Really looking forward to the future of your website.

  36. @Maar13: We appreciate that a lot! We have a lot coming up with “Heroine Legends” and a brand new project that we are creating specifically for the Superhero/Superheroine community which we will launch in February!!! Excited to show you guys!!

    Logan

  37. I also think $35 is an egregious amount of money.

    But I bought this one to try it out. Not bad. Would I pay $35 dollars again? I don’t think so. $19.99? Probably.

  38. @rover: glad you enjoyed it! if that’s the price range you’re looking for, take a look at the sale posted on this page above and at our website– there are plenty of films in that price range during the sale!

    Logan

  39. “Path to Darkness, which contains several KOs via multiple neck snaps, power overdose, chloroform”

    When is this coming out?!?! Thanks for the info!

  40. Seems like just what I want in a video but charging $35 for a 14 minute video is criminal. Not a chance in hell you’re gonna get a nickel out’a me this way. I’ll just wait for someone else to come along and do this for a reasonable price.

  41. @Fan421: “Path to Darkness will be released after “The Demon Within” which we are hoping to get our 1st film back from the editor next week. If we are unable to release “TDW”, we will release Episode 2.2: ‘Nightmare’… We have filmed WAY in advance, so like I had said in earlier posts, we are getting ourselves back on track!!

    @esshx: No worries! We hope you find exactly what you’re looking for!!

    Logan

  42. I enjoyed this episode, pretty much enjoyed everything about it…acting was really good.
    ahh the price, to be honest it doesn’t bother me, i enjoyed the ep so it was worth it….i have spent more money on vids i have been dissapointed in and never watched again.
    I do have one thing i dont like, haha as small and stupid as it may be….I dont know why the trailer is at the beginning of the video…
    Anyway, really looking forward to 2.3, hope there is a trailer or something released soon for it….subtle push Logan :)
    Keep up the good work.

  43. @j: 2.3 is in post with an editor (we, of course, need to launch 2.2 first), so it will be out in a few weeks!! We also have scheduled releases for “The Demon Within” (finally!) and “Path to Darkness”– we also jump back into filming after the holidays with Heroine Legends, test fight scenes, and a brand new project that we’re dying to tell everyone about– but we’re not quite ready to show you!! Stay tuned!!

    Also, Happy Holidays to everyone from everyone at Heroine Legends and Cross the Line Films!!

    Logan

  44. UPDATE: We have 3 episodes almost finished in Post-Production, so we will have another release very soon!! We hope you enjoyed the free wallpaper that came with episode 2.1– from the feedback thus far, I’ve decided to continue with them, so I finished up with the wallpaper for episodes 2.2 with Vega and 2.3 with Nightshadow today!! We WILL introduce 3 new Heroines in January (one of them based loosely on Wonder Woman) and are excited to push forward with our series!! For those of you who are still looking for customs, we have a sale for a 10-minute custom for $850 (actor, location, themes approved) and for those who want to throw a few suggestions into the mix, go ahead and post them up on here so I can take a look as I schedule the next few episodes!! Thanks and we hope everyone is having an amazing 2012 year-end!!

    p.s. This is just a reminder that all “Heroine Academy” and “Torture Chamber” episodes and feature packs have been lowered substantially in price for our year-end sale and will NOT be available in 2013, so if you wanted to check them out, visit http://www.HeroineLegends.com and get the ones you wanted at their clearance prices before they’re gone!!

    Logan

  45. Whitman

    I just picked up “The Academy” Fight Compilation video, and it was pretty awesome.
    1. Heroine Legends has some of the hottest women in the industry. Seriously these girls are super hot.
    2. I think their choreography is also top-notch. I really enjoy the back-and-forth of a lot of HL’s fights.
    3. As a low blow fan, I bought this movie for the low blows and low blows alone, and I was thrilled with the quality and quantity of low blows. The choreography makes each one significant, without overdoing it (I’d personally rather buy a movie with three great low blows in it than 30 lame ones). Each girl gets cheap shotted at least once per fight, and as I said these girls are GORGEOUS.
    4. The fact that it is 30 minutes of PURE FIGHTING (with some great cheap shots) for 30 bucks is an absolutely insane value. I know some of y’all have been kvetching about the HL’s prices, well here’s a chance to get a great compilation movie for a steal.

    Each movie I buy from these guys is better and better. Keep up the outstanding work on these fights, guys!

    And finally, as long as I’m here: More F/F fights and low blows please :)

  46. @Whitman: Thank you very much for the kind words!! We will keep the low blows coming!! Did you happen to pick up episode 2.1 yet? Thorne takes quite a few low blows in succession followed by one that drops her completely ;) We will do our best to keep the fight choreography getting better and better as our Heroines are going through fight choreography / stage combat boot camp!! Also, keep on the look out for our new project that features the actresses who play Thorne, Allura, Vega, and Celestia – as our lead 4 girls!! (coming soon!!)

    Thanks again!!

    Logan

  47. Agent E-45

    Heh, I will add my two cents in with Whiteman, Lotsa F/F fights, with ridiculous amounts of low blows !! (I concede I like as many as 10 similar ones in a row, ending with a tremendous one that drops the lady hard… so I suppose I differ slightly from Whiteman in that regard).

    So yes, please increase the F/F fights, and with them, the F/F low blows!

  48. @Agent E-45: Suggestions noted!! Episode 2.1 is definitely one for you as well with successive low blows followed by one that completely drops the Heroine! ;) Thanks for the feedback!!

    Logan

  49. rangerian

    @Agent E-45

    You will like this one. There is a good low blow sequence with a drop, as Logan says.

    Loved it. Beatdown and low blows. Wish there was more of these clips around.

    The actors, top notch.

  50. hi logan

    I’m anxious to see the episodes with Vega and Allura, which the forecast for the launch of 2.2?

  51. it just flies in the face of most economic theory for all videos to be priced at $1 per minute. if Thorne is the, or one of the, hottest models in the genre, then it makes sense for the price of the video to increase. a consumer (generally, other factors are definitely in play…economy and so forth mentioned above) will be willing to pay more for a great cup of coffee than a good cup of coffee, even though they’re both a cup of coffee.

  52. But for your model to work, it still means still imbuing this film with almost mythic levels of quality.

    Looking at the industry as a whole, Heroine Legends is certainly among the best in the business. But is their work in general, or this movie specifically, quantifiably better than anything else currently available?

    Sure, your coffee analogy works if there’s a notable disparity of quality. But if there are at least 3 or 4 outlets supplying great coffee, all to the same standard – but one of them is charging you more than twice the price for a cup than any of the others, then why would you buy your coffee there?

  53. @rangerian: we are working on getting a few more films like this one out to you. The Heroine Allura gets a mini-beatdown in “Agent Files 4″ which we already filmed. She will receive another in a subsequent episode. Celestia will also be receiving one. Nightshadow receives one in a wrestling format in episode 2.3 and we will have one with Vega as well!

    @valugi: I have spoken with my editors and they all will have cuts for me this weekend, so I’m looking for an early-next-week launch of episode 2.2 with Vega– 2.3 or “The Demon Within” should be followed shortly thereafter!

    @Mell: We aren’t following the rest of the pack anymore in regards to pricing. We know what we have to offer so we have decided to go our own route, but I completely agree with your metaphor! ;)

    @Sym: The same thing I said to Mell above… we are going on our own pricing. It seems to be working for us– and it’s going to come down to customer opinion and preference. If you want to use the coffee analogy, then you know that some people buy Starbucks every single day knowing that it costs more than any other brand of coffee– some people don’t even care that some other brands taste better to them. Others are satisfied with their $1 McDonald’s or Dunkin Donuts coffees. It’s on a per-person basis, but just because McDonald’s or Dunkin Donuts sell their coffee cheaper and people buy it instead of their, you don’t see them lowering their prices to try and gain those customers because they have a product at a price that sells and allows for their business model to grow. It’s the same with any business. And we need to stay at a certain price range and maintain a certain level of quality to grow– which is our intention. We are working on getting to the point where our Heroine movies are on the big screen– you guys are helping us completely understand what fans want in this genre and it’s fueling our next concept which features the actresses who play Thorne, Allura, Celestia, and Vega!! You will see this new project around February :)

    On a side note, we have decided to postpone the “Mortal Kombat” project after reviewing the feedback on several boards/forums and via our email feedback. We don’t feel we will be able to put enough of our time and effort into that project to make it what people expect it to be while we strive to improve the other projects we currently have going on. Thank you for everyone’s comments– we can’t wait to show you what’s in store for Heroine Legends and our next similar project!!!

    Logan

  54. Hey guys,

    Also, don’t forget that “The Heroine Academy” & “The Torture Chamber” are going to be deleted from our inventory and website on midnight, December 31st, 2012! If you want to pick up any of these episodes, make sure you do before the end of the year because they will be gone after that!! They have been ridiculously discounted for a clearance value– the Feature Packs for both of them and the fight compilations are the cost of a normal film and it includes all the films in the series!! Just a heads up!!

    Logan

  55. Bummer about the ‘Mortal Kombat’ stuff being put on hold, as that was about the only real thing I was looking forward to at HL! Here’s to hoping it still gets made, as it was about the only thing that could have set HL apart from say a NGC!

  56. @Mark: It’s something that is just on hold– we don’t know for how long, but what sets us apart is going to be our outreach. Our next project, which has a completely different concept than “Heroine Legends”, is going to be a “by the community, for the community” project. It will be held on Kickstarter, with the option for our fans and others in the Superhero/Superheroine community to contribute if they so wish in order to see the project funded and created. We will set a target goal for what we can complete the project with at a minimum– this target will be in addition to our own funds. Anything above that will allow for more VFX, green screen, stunts, better costumes, better locations, more fights, etc. When it is all said and done though, the video will not be for sale, but rather available for FREE to the entire community. This will be our first step toward growing to a broader market and allowing us to then get advertising, investors, etc so that we can create a series that our fans will love to follow and will see more and more of– and everyone who contributed will be a part of something huge! Details will come soon!!

    Logan

  57. Hey can anyone here tell me if TBFE is returning? I read something about these 2 sites having some similar characters/costumes/writers but couldnt quite understand if they were connected or not. Any info appreciated!

  58. @Kevlar: I used to be a writer and actor for “The Battle for Earth” prior to starting my own series – “Heroine Legends”. As far as I know, I do not see an imminent return of the series– I carried over a few characters I had created into my own series, but that’s really all of a connection there is. I do speak to Allen– he’s a good friend of mine, but I am not aware of any current filming for this series. If I get any information regarding this, I’ll be sure to relay it to you!! If there are qualities of TBFE that you miss seeing that I could possibly carry over to HL, let me know– it may be something I can incorporate. If it’s simply the filming style, characters, or storylines from that universe, then that may be something that will have to continue with TBFE– if they decide to pick things back up. ;)

    Logan

  59. well i guess most part of us misses the superior girl series

  60. @elnovo: ahh, I understand. Well, we won’t be able to continue that series with HeroineLegends, but our closest character to be released soon will be Vega who is featured in “The Demon Within”, “Path to Darkness”, & Episode 2.2: ‘Nightmare’ :)

    Logan

  61. rangerian

    @Logan

    Mate, sounds like you are going kick off 2013 with a huge BANG!

    Watched this Ep again and I think it was even better second time around.
    It has become my best online download of all time, yes that good!

    To others complaining about price. Look at how much you have spent on this stuff over all and ask yourself, what do you want, quality or quantity?

    The beatdown series is just what we need right now. Sure, other themes will follow, that is the nature of this realm.

    Reading posts on this site, everyone seems to be wired a bit differently, which is a great thing, coz it inspires variations and the rest of us get to experience something different.

    Right now, I think Logan is on my frequency and I am very excited to see his upcoming productions.

    Regarding the backing drama music, can we have this optional? So we can choose to have a download with the drama music mix or without. I love the beatdowns with just the human audio :)

  62. @rangerian: 2nd time around = better?? Then we did a good job!! As for the audio, I can talk to my editors about it… I’d have to get a consensus from everyone– keep in mind that the music overlay helps with the mood even if it seems like it’s impeding– the pace is just… off… without it. On another note, once we get our Wonder Woman-type character up and get our Supergirl-type character with a few episodes released under her belt (we’ve filmed 6 with her already), you guys will have more options… I can tell you that even though we will have our selection of Heroines, we are going to focus more on Thorne, Allura, Celestia, and Vega as the series moves forward. The others will be there, of course, but these 4 will be the driving force!

    Logan

  63. rangerian

    @Logan

    Yeah, I know, 2nd time around, thats not supposed to happen. You only get surprised once usually. I think for me, I just appreciated the timing of the sequences more. It all just clicks, at least for the viewer. Not sure if ‘click’ is the right word, with bone crunching punches, haha.

    I’m not a fan of the wonder woman outfits, probably because I am not a USA dude. Sure I grew up with WW but I had no fantasies about her. The stars tights are really unattractive, purely on a fashion note than taking a swipe at the USA as a nation.The character has been done to death with every other producer. But if anyone can surprise, it could be HL that puts some mojo in the WW character.

    For outfits anything that leaves little to the imagination is great and also outfits that highlight the body contours. Loose clothes=boring. Hate skirts, whilst I know others love them.

    I’m definitely going to get involved with your kickstarter production, sounds like lots of fun.

  64. @rangerian: honestly, Wonder Woman has never done anything for me either and I have zero attraction to her… I usually understand the desires in this genre but WW isn’t one of them. Her pants/tights are abnormally shaped to me which is a turn off and I hate corsets or anything resembling them but that’s just my own personal preference. I’m not yet sure what we are going to do with her costume yet other than she will have bracers and no lasso. Brown hair and blue eyes matches the actress we have… And the WW body frame. Beyond that, I don’t know. Personally I’m impartial to whether she’s is in a skirt, booty shorts, leotard, or skin-tight pants – I do try and switch it up while I can. We appreciate all interest in our Kickstarter project– the concept keeps us in the Superheroine realm without being stuck to certain elements of it… I’ll be able to explain more as we near our launch date!! :) Anyway, I have 2 other girls to launch before our WW character so I’m still converting those as well ;)

    Logan

  65. I’m a fan of Wonder Woman, but personally when I think of her–in terms of costume and powers–I think of the comics first:

    http://images4.fanpop.com/image/photos/15800000/Wonder-Woman-dc-comics-15864385-1600-1200.jpg

    http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20110830032121/marvel_dc/images/1/11/Wonder_Woman_0040.jpg

    http://www.supermanhomepage.com/images/characters/who-images/wonder-woman1.jpg

    And my biggest issue with most peril movies made about her take their cue from from the 70’s show, with the outdated costume, nylons, and granny-panties.
    Also in terms of what Wonder Woman does and is able to do. In the comics she’s a strong as Superman, her powers aren’t dependent on her belt, and she doesn’t just fight Nazis all the time.

    Having said all that, I can appreciate that getting Wonder Woman’s costume–or at least some kind of variation–can be very difficult to pull off in real life. If I can offer suggestions of a direction, maybe something like these may work:

    http://api.ning.com/files/EM80p7GavEmrM6FR-8QSXmeQ5UgppxpWfDO9H6c7Cr41Ziq*UsZEV2o9TgSxnlOnLKXnmbCfvBlgbIwRWsBedRa-mDk4mMhu/UltimateWonderWoman.jpg

    http://www.starburstmagazine.com/images/june2012/ame-comi-wonder-woman-1.jpg

  66. Agent E-45

    I’m thinking of getting this 2.1 episode.. that said, I see a guy in all the preview pics. I must stress, that for my tastes, I’m only interested in F/F low blows…. are there any in this episode? I’m aware from previous comments that there are tonnes of lowblows in this one, but if it’s a guy delivering them all, personally I’m not interested. Nothing wrong with that direction of the film if that is the case, just strictly personal preference.

  67. Agent E-45

    Oh, Whiteman, when you said you bought the video striclty for low blows, and was very happy with it, were you referring to ““The Academy” Fight Compilation video” in particular?

    Sorry if the answers are already in this tthread, I have to read it through more carefully, and I have a BAD headache right now, and am just trying to type without errors right now.

  68. Agent E-45

    Ha, never mind. Could not wait, I just purchased the Academy Fight Compilation video, hopefully I got it right, and I enjoy it! Cheers!

  69. @WP: I will take all of your suggestions into consideration when deciding the direction of her costume… I do have a little bit of time before I need to put it together, but at least I’ll have variations :) We aren’t looking to recreate the character, but rather create one that’s similar in “aura” to her– if that makes sense.

    @Agent E-45: Episode 2.1’s low blows are all Male delivered to Female. The female in the video simply speaks shortly with Thorne before killing her. “Power Hungry [3]” features F/F low blows, but they are hard to come by simply because it is easier to employ males in this industry. Attractive, in-shape, talented, easy to work with female actors are a rarity so we tend to hold onto the ones who fit the profile and discard the others… That’s just the nature of the beast. We fit them in when we can, but even with the low blows in 2.1 being M/F, they are acted out VERY well in comparison to most others I’ve seen ;)

    Logan

  70. Agent E-45

    Argh.. I bought the Compilation one, and yea, it’s all M/F…. nobody’s fault but my own, I should have looked into it more closely.

    Anyway, thanks HeroineLegends for the info there regarding 2.1’s lowblows being M/F, it’s very appreciated!

  71. rangerian

    @Agent E-45

    Just backing up Logan’s comments on how well those low blows are delivered.

    Seriously, they are some of the best I have ever seen. The actor and actress superbly deliver the action and reaction. Camera position and timing are spot on.
    Bone shattering sound FX and Thorne is such a sexy figher with a smokin hot body.

    Having the low blow action come in after most of the main beat down is also a stroke of genius. And also just after Thorne tried to suggest some sexual favors to her opponent. Yeah all nicely done indeed.

    Such a shame E-45, maybe we can have Logan reshoot with a female beating up Thorne? Hmm, I’d like to see that :)))

  72. Agent E-45

    @rangerian

    Well I’d certainly be happy to see Logan reshoot it in a F/F version, though that would have to be “custom video” territory, and I sure as heck can’t afford that :) But if it somehow comes about, then yes, I’d be quite happy to purchase something like that, lol. Cheers all.

  73. The episode looks cool but it is too much money for me.. I dont know … there are two characters in one room fighting. Dont get me wrong maybe i could enjoy this video more than any other but its not fair for me when other videos with more production value are more cheap. The discounts are great i will pick and old episode and i wil get this in a future disccount ( fingers cross)

  74. @Agent E-45 & @rangerian: A reshoot probably won’t happen, but another episode with a similar concept and some F/F low blows is possible… I do have to film an episode where Celestia basically goes crazy and turns evil followed by a separate episode where Celestia is killed, so there is potential. Celestia will be receiving a new costume that she chose in about 3 episodes (that feature her). Allura got a new one which you will see in both “Path to Darkness” & “Agent Files 4″ which she also had some say in– she plays herself as a Heroine prior to turning evil. Anyway, I’m getting off-target– we’ll work on those F/F low blows for ya!! ;)

    @Beast: I’m assuming you’re basing production value on the location alone because the costume, acting, lighting, camera, & sound are all top-notch in this film… The location was chosen because it makes sense for the continuation of the series of where we left off with Episode 1.13… Furis’ semi-dungeon. And also adds to her cockiness of thinking she can escape and ends up dying instead. The price will most certainly go down a little bit most likely around next Fall when we begin Season 3, just like Season 1 prices lowered now that we’ve begun releasing for Season 2 (which was about 9 months after the beginning of Season 1) so there IS hope for that!! If you do decide to pick it up at whatever point in time, I’m sure you’ll enjoy it– it’s our 3rd most popular film and it’s only been out for one week. ;)

    Logan

  75. I just bought this one and having trouble getting into the e-mail from my pay pal.. Any way you can redirect the link to my other e-mail?

  76. Has the sound quality of these videos improved? I tried out this site and bought a couple videos. One of the Training Academy Videos, Brittany I think it was, and I forget the name of the other one, but it had Tempest from TBFE fighting some woman in a house. But the sound quality was bad, so I haven’t purchased one since, because for what these videos cost, there shouldn’t have these types of issues.

    I do enjoy these types of one sided beatdowns and the actress is hot, but $35 is a lot, and the video should have no production issues for that price.

  77. @M: I received your email and just sent the download link for the episode you purchased to the new email you specified– enjoy!!

    @Mike J: Hopefully others will also address this for you so the answer isn’t just coming from me, but we haven’t had any audio issues for the past 4 months. The ‘Ground Zero’, ‘Return of the Black Queen’, ‘The Demon Within’, Episode 2.1: ‘Impending Death’ films and everything we film beyond those will no longer have any audio issues. The reason we had them before was due to the type of camera we started off with– in order to run audio into the camera, we had to utilize an adapter that attached to the camera which allowed us to use an XLR cable with it. This box, no matter how we configured it, caused a hissing sound to be produced which, with all attempts to eliminate it in post, affected the audio negatively. The microphone we used also had it’s own set of issues and limitations. Around August/September, we purchased all new audio equipment. We now record sound separately and sync in post and are using a microphone that is standard for Hollywood productions. Our camera has also been upgraded (Episode 2.1 is the first to show it off) and we have a new team of editors. Production values have definitely shot up and you can see the video improvement in the screen captures and trailer and definitely hear the audio in the trailer around the :47 second mark– there is no background music there and all dialogue. ;)

    Logan

  78. Hey guys,

    Just wanted to let you know and thank you for making Episode 2.1: ‘Impending Death’ the 2nd most popular episode as of today in the “Heroine Legends” universe!! The only episode more-watched was Episode 1.1: ‘Aura Control’ which was launched 9 months ago, followed by the 3 Agent Files films!! Thanks again for following the series and we will continue to put out films for you to enjoy as we expand our universe and begin to launch a new series!!

    Logan

  79. rangerian

    That’s awesome news Logan.

    Just goes to show you have a quality client base supporting your productions.

    I cant wait to order your next production.

  80. @rangerian: we definitely have an awesome fan base– you guys rock!! (that’s why I ask for your feedback so often– so I can make films you WANT to watch!! And it will also keep us grounded in the genre as we push forward with the new project) :)

    Logan

  81. I said it in comparison to other videos. I never said anything about HL production values. But you use two actors in only one location, with a costume that you already have it for previous episodes when in previous and more cheaps episodes you have the same thing and even more and more cheap. Exteriors, actors, actresses, different and new costumes. etc…
    Maybe this is the best video ever. Because is just what the audience want. A superheroine being beaten by a villain and thats it. I want to see it because i know i will love it. But there are out there a lot of videos with the same and maybe more for less money. For example i love belly punches i can found a lot of videos from jill lauren cheaper. I love superheroine i can find videos in NGC more cheaper. Zen pictures wich have really high high production values has videos more cheaper. Ring divas is more expensive but they an entire ring with lights and the price is very similar. I would love to buy one for each company but for this price for me is not worth it. Its what i think i dont want to speak for the entire community

  82. @Beast: Totally understandable… Not much I can say to that– it’s your personal opinion, but as you stated, it’s priced the way it is because of supply & demand– and there are always other factors that go into the cost/pricing. If you’re looking for it to be cheaper, then September-ish would be a good time to look back into this particular episode which is when I envision Season 3 to begin. And for someone who loves belly punches, this one has 24 of them ;)

    Logan

  83. AHHHHH you are the devil!!! Dont tempt me!!!!!
    I think will eat my speech. OK maybe i will buy it…….. but please note that you need 24 belly punches to convice me. I will count every single one and if there are 23 i want a refund.

  84. @Beast: lol well, I didn’t include the numerous hits to her side and back sooooooo I don’t think you’ll be disappointed AT ALL… our lead actor and actress LOVE this film and that goes far in my book– when your actors and actresses love the film, you know the fans are going to! ;)

    Logan

  85. Hi Logan,

    I love how you are so great at interacting with the fans. You mentioned Celestia’s new outfit that she designed. Any chance we might get a sneak preview? She’s so gorgeous she would look good in a potato sack, but I’d still love to anticipate what is coming. :)

  86. @HeroineLegends
    Please at least stop with the supply & demand argument which might make sense for Starbucks coffee but not for virtual goods where there is no supply issue or inventory for that matter. “The Dark knight Rises” might be much more high-quality than other movies but it will still only be $15 on DVD because if you make a higher quality product you will sell more of it and every customer that is happy with your product and does not feel ripped off will be inclined to buy more of what you have to sell..

    I honestly feel that by overcharging your customers you are squandering a lot of good-will and I simply cannot believe that by charging prices that are simply not justifiable on principle even for someone like me who really is not short on cash you are doing yourself a favor.

  87. @HM Fan: I will post up an example of the photo we are using for inspiration later today on Celestia’s page on our site when I return home later tonight and you guys can comment on your thoughts of it here. It’s not the exact costume, just a photo of another character that sparked ideas for her new costume. She will also be getting a new name ;)

    @Sloan: supply & demand is not in reference to the product itself but rather the character and situation she is put in. You also cannot compare these films that equivalently to those of major Hollywood productions because our target audience is in the thousands, there’s is in the hundreds of millions. It’s a different scale. Also, I know our product is not over-priced because as of today, it just became our most-popular video sold with nothing but positive response to it– even including some feedback from those who initially thought the price to be a little on the higher side and are now comfortable with their purchase. You can read those reviews above.

    Thank you to everyone who made this our #1 film of the “Heroine Legends” series!!!

    Logan

  88. @HM Fan: Here is the picture that our actress found which will be the foundation of her new costume. Keep in mind that it will be the same actress who is a brunette, and it will be pink and black. (She will also have a new name as not to confuse our character with that of NGC– whom I only recently realized had a character of the same name. We are changing without any requests to do so by anyone, just for our own merit)

    Here is the link: http://www.heroinelegends.com/celestia

    I leave the new costume up for suggestions, feedback, comments, etc!!!

    Logan

  89. Hey everyone,

    On a second topic, I want some input. If you heard of a new series coming out based on 4 girls who had special powers based on their minds who worked for a secret agent type agency, and it was called “Psygents”, what would be your first impressions?

    Just curious to hear what you think, thanks!!

    Logan

  90. First impression, I would think the story has potential….but…it could be me and I could be a little slow however when I first read the name it took me a bit to realise the gents was from agents, I was thinking gents as in gentleman…again I could be insane. I was sober at the time, not so much now (New Year’s Eve here n all) if alcohol brings me inspiration ill send it through, all I have at the moment is Psycops…but that’s just because it sounds like psychlops and for some reason I found that funny. Gangnam style dude kinda ruined the psy thing too. Anyway I apologise for my dribble, I’m sure someone will write Something helpful.

  91. @j: that’s funny, you basically pinpointed all of our concerns with the title in one post, which ironically enough includes our concern about using “Psy-anything” now! Gents does sound like its meant to be a group of males– so back to the drawing board with the title of the main group. They are 4 girls who, thru a life and death situation, flip over to the unused portion of their brain and develop “powers” due to their situations… They are going to be called Transcendents (like X-Men has “mutants”), but we don’t want to title it with that name… It’s too long and too much like “Transformers” when seen out of context as a title. For anyone who has been following the posts, this is our Kickstarter project. ;)

    We are open to suggestions :)

    Logan

  92. @ Heroine Legends

    Well I took your word about the sound corrections and took a flyer on this one and I must say. I have some videos with some one sided beatdowns, but this was just awesome, well worth the money.

    This actress sells the blows well, I love rag dolling when the heroine is picked up and almost limp in the villains grasp. She sold everything well, the blows, the backbreakers, the bearhugs everything. She’s also hot.

    I’m going to have to add Heroine Legends to my list of studios I buy from. If I like future purchases as much as this I may have to add you guys to my custom list as well, if you do customs.

    Great video.

  93. Also, the only thing I didn’t like about the video was the music. I’ve never liked loud music playing during the videos. I really like to hear the blows, the whimpers, moans or whatever. Some of the parts the music was in the way, for example the whole part where he was slamming her and beating her on the wall.

  94. @Mile J: I’m glad you took a chance and got to check out the film! This film actually WAS a custom film, so we definitely do them… As for the music, we had one other person mention the level on the background music, so we requested a more equalized sound mix in future episodes so the actress isn’t drowned out at any point. Thanks for the comments and again, I’m happy you enjoyed it!

    Logan

  95. @ Heroine Legends

    I looked at one of your previous posts about the videos that came out after you switched the way you did the audio. Wasn’t going to pay $100 for Black Queen, but I took a chance on the Ground Zero package because fifty bucks isn’t a lot for 3 videos. It actually came out as $44.99 in the cart, don’t know what happened there but I’ll take it lol.

    Awesome videos, hot heroines and good action. I have no idea of what is going on as far as motivations or plot, but the videos themselves are well made. Good choreography and acting. Look the special effects, the powers are very well done. This was well worth the purchase as well.

    Only thing I’ll say is that your trailers don’t do your videos justice at all. There aren’t really representative of what is in the videos. I just happened to look up all the ground zero episodes on this site, and read the reviewers descriptions of the videos, but honestly I would have never made the purchase off the trailers alone.

    For example the first episode of Ground Zero is a one sided beatdown of the heroine for the most part, but no one would know it from the trailer. I put A LOT of weight on what I see in a trailer. 30 secs is not enough, they should be like the trailer was for this video, and show some of the meat of the video.

  96. Haha damn that song, I guess if you ever make a series about a bunch of guys that work for a secret organisation and defeat evil with a weird dance it could work…haha sorry. I would suggest something awesome but im not so creative unfortunately. Y’all have a great new year and good luck with everything in 2013.

  97. Hi Logan,

    Thanks for posting the picture. I like the elegant new design and just one over the shoulder strap. Celestia is smoking hot, so I think less is definitely more in the outfit department. I’d like something along the lines shown, but with the less coverage on her abs – maybe get just have a cut out rather than the material crossing over her there. Call me crazy, but I love her abs and hope that her cute belly (and belly button) is not any more covered than in her current costume. :)

    IMHO Evil Celestia would look AMAZING in black leather or latex for the whole outfit – perhaps a top like the current one and short shorts/mini skirt, paired with leather opera gloves and knee high boots. If another color is added in, maybe red over pink.

    I’d love to see Evil Celestia in some F/F fights. Here are some ideas:

    Good Celestia has a long fight with a villainess and ends up getting knocked out via sleeper hold. She wakes up and is dressed in the Evil Celestia (Domina?) outfit. She then battles with the Heroines for a while in a series of F/F fights. Finally 2 good girls go up against Evil Celestia. After Evil Celestia holds her own in a long fight, the heroines eventually turn the tides. While she is distracted fighting one, the other good girl manages to tie Evil Celestia’s arms over her head, While that heroine immobilizes Evil Celestia’s wrists, the other heroine lands a number of punches, then places Evil Celestia in a backbreaker. Evil Celestia is bent over one heroines knee with the other immobilizing her wrists. Finally one applies the chloro-soaked rag. There is a long KO scene. Evil Celestia’s ankles are then also tied up and she is carried over the shoulder of one of the good girls.

    I am just one fan though. Curious to hear what other folks think…

    PS, what would your recommend as far as F/F fights with Celestia that I might like (current or pending)? Also, I was wondering if I can get any videos on DVD.

    Happy 2013 to you, the lovely actress who plays Celestia and the rest of the Heroine Legends team!

  98. @Mike J: Hey there! Well, it looks like the “Ground Zero” Feature Pack was wrong in the system– good job on that buy!! We know about the trailers– that had to do with the editor we had– his quality began to deteriorate as time went on. He is no longer with us. They are directed to show something sexy, show some action, show some peril, then leave on a cliff-hanger, so I leave it up to them. Our trailers are supposed to be about a minute long-ish– enough to captivate. Anyway, we will be working on that. Glad you enjoyed it though– Ground Zero was a transition point for me– it was where I decided to write the films the way I would want to see them as opposed to trying to write films around ONLY customer requests. Anyway, we just got the 1st cut back for Episode 2.2 with Vega and I can’t wait to release it!!

    @j: lol we may just end up with “Psygents”– the Korean guy will fade off and no one will remember him– and Psygents are types of Agents so it works… we shall see!! Thank you for the feedback and have a great New Year!!!

    @HM Fan: Do I sense a custom here? lol We have been working with our fans creating customs lately, so our fans have been coming to us with their budgets and we let them know how we can work with it to create something they want to see– if you want to know more, send me over a message: info@HeroineLegends.com – I like the ideas– we would need to work out some details… Celestia is honestly only in “Agent Files 3: Time is Money” in a F/F fight. The other is “Ground Zero 2″, but it’s F+F/M. DVD option should be coming soon– we’re not 100% sure on the pricing structure for this so that it covers shipping, process, materials, etc without being overpriced. Happy 2013 to you as well and you will be seeing Celestia (and whatever we call her after she dies) more and more in the upcoming films!!

    @everyone: remember, today is the last day to purchase any of the “Heroine Academy” and/or “Torture Chamber” films!! Tomorrow, we will be removing them from our catalogue and clearing them from our site!! Thanks!! (They are marked for clearance pricing!!)

    Logan

  99. rangerian

    @ Mike J

    Mate, thanks for the heads up about Ground Zero. I just ordered the bargain pack based on your review. I think you and I are on the same page, based on your appreciation of Impending Death 2.1

    I was the dude who also mentioned the backing music. Thanks for remembering my comment Logan, much appreciated :)

  100. @rangerian: of course! what’s the point of asking for feedback if I’m not paying attention to it, right? ;) I may make new trailers for “Power Hungry” & “Ground Zero” myself soon– especially “Ground Zero” which I personally enjoy :)

    Any other/additional feedback on Celestia’s new costume? Skirt? Booty Shorts? Pants? etc?

    Logan

  101. rangerian

    @Logan

    Yes I was meaning to get back to you about Celestia’s new costume.

    For me, skirts and pants are out. Like a bucket of cold water.

    RECOMMEND:
    *Tight* booty shorts, pref in fluro colours = good for video- see what Alex Bettinger has using in his costume colours. Great examples there.

    With no clunky belts or things that dangle off them, they just get in the way.
    Tops that are snug with plenty of cleavage. Loved the torn top in 2.1 with Thorne, what a rack, what a babe!! (When is her next production?)

    Summary;
    Sleak bodylines, fluro colours, leaves little to the imagination :)

    Hope this helps.

  102. @rangerian: Thorne hasn’t shot a new episode yet– we are waiting for a few other episodes to be edited and released before jumping back into filming– we have a few in mind for her ;) as for Celestia’s costume, it’s so funny how varying the tastes are in this community… For instance, when we started, we were constantly asked for a Supergirl character which we finally have who features a skirt… Then it was a catsuit- which Hawke wore– which we got complaints about after being asked for it lol –then there’s the complaint that the costumes weren’t comic-book enough so we created Halo (partially thru a custom) and then got complaints about her costume which shows her underwear and has a belt… Then we were told we had too many girls showing their stomachs… Then people constantly asked for a Wonder Woman character then told me they don’t like her costume but only one person gave me alternatives to it– Lol it’s just funny how diverse the tastes are– it’s like the tights vs no tights debate. When creating a new costume (and this is from replies I get on various boards and via emails), there doesn’t seem to be a PERFECT idea of what a Superheroine should look like — I’m a fan of showing skin– I personally like a little left to the imagination because I like “the tease” of it… But to each his or her own :) I’ll start working on it shortly, once we get back into filming for the new year :)

    Logan

  103. rangerian

    @Logan

    Yes we all have differing tastes. To some extent, it keeps things interesting. You can always sweep across the broad range over the longer term and address most of the main fashion outfits.

    For those you will never please, they can always do a custom and you never know, some of us might like the change.

    Yeah, I’m more a skin guy as well.

    Looking forward to watching Ground Zero tonight.

  104. A superheroine without a skirt is not a superheroine in my book. Just my personal opinion. Guys wear shorts and catsuits/unitards. It is a key pointer to what I purchase.

  105. Decendingskulls

    @ Lake, what about (legless and armless) leotard but no skirt, plus boots, gloves/bracelets, mask, maybe a cape? Superheroine then? Or does she still need the skirt? We should do like a poll on outfits, i think it would be fun.

  106. Andrew

    Logan, allow me to think about costumes through my perspective for a while. I believe that’s very important to any superhero character, from comics or movie, to show some sensuality. Off couse, in comics we can accept it more than a normal situation, cause is a more “sureal” world. I believe that’s the world which in all these superheroines stories are made. But when we find some extreme ideas with superheroines almost naked, we associate them to a “call girl”, a hooker(forgive me for my language). Yes, i don’t like porn videos, but I’m saying that with all respect for other tastes. So, the best way, the best path for me, from my perspective, the producer should choose one part of the actress body to explore. If you choose legs, as an example, you can cover the othes body parts, partially or totaly. I like the “Next Global Crisis” philosophy. They choose their actresses carefully, I believe, and the costumes fits very well in this idea that like. Off couse, I like some of your characters too, like “Tempest”, “Mystic”, Allura. Thorne, as an example, in my opinion, is a little bit naked, though I like the character. That actress is one of the best for this genre of movies. Anyway, I’m just defending one view on the costume idea. I would love to Watch your idea about Wonder Woman. She’s my favorite, man. I understand all the ideas that you have to deal with. I’m just trying to give you another ones. Thank you!

  107. @rangerian: let me know your thoughts on “Ground Zero” :)

    @Lake: I’m curious about the other Superheroines as well– Wonder Woman, Catwoman, Elektra, Ms Marvel, Rogue, Storm, Power Girl…. Thorne…. none of them do anything for you?

    @MO: I got a 1st edit – which is just a video edit back yesterday and I LOVE IT! We did realize that we actually can’t launch Episode 2.2 until we have already launched “The Demon Within” (remember, that’s been a huge editing fiasco with multiple editors causing multiple issues) – but we are supposed to have that returned to us in final format in the next few days so we will launch that prior to Episode 2.2– because Season 2 doesn’t make sense without “TDW”‘s plot line– I had written them based on the assumption that we would have been able to release “TDW” months ago.

    @Decendingskulls: I would like to know my audience a bit better– and learn of those people perhaps who don’t yet follow “Heroine Legends”, so I second that– I think a poll would also be fun… I want to add to that poll and include body parts that you guys like most (are you leg guys, boob guys, stomach guys, ass guys, etc) and do you prefer blondes, brunettes, asians, etc… all in good fun and curiosity :)

    @Andrew: I agree with you that too much skin to the point of either nudity or being next to nude changes the genre and in my mind, takes it from being somewhat classy, sexy, alluring, and provocative to something I might watch once. I like the tease just strictly speaking as a male viewer and if truth be told, can be sold on the actress’ body language and body movements over what she is wearing– though her costume definitely helps with the illusion… for me. Anyway, we will push on with our Wonder Woman character who will loosely be based on the one you all know– we had considered to just scrap that character idea all together, but we changed our minds. I have a few ideas on how she will look and hopefully you will all like it as well!!

    Any more ideas on the new Celestia? Thanks!!
    See her old and new (idea-inspiration) here:
    http://www.heroinelegends.com/celestia

    p.s. some of you asked, and the answer is YES, Black Queen WILL be returning!! ;)

    Logan

  108. Hey all,

    We are going to be taking down and removing from our site and billing system all of the “Heroine Academy” & “Torture Chamber” films later today. If you wanted to pick them up, you’ve got a few hours left to do so!

    We will be keeping “Heroine Academy” & “Torture Chamber” Feature Packs in inventory a little while longer because of a few requests from those who emailed me that they wanted to pick them up but couldn’t by today for one reason or another– so they will be up on the “Packages” page.

    “The Academy” and “Season 1″ prices will stay the same from the Sale, “Ground Zero” will be returning to it’s normal price, so if you want to pick that up before the price change, now is the time!!

    Anyway, thanks for everyone’s comments and I look forward to hearing more feedback now that we are getting back into full swing of production– we have a company meeting tomorrow to discuss the next block of filming so we will be taking all suggestions with us!!

    Logan

  109. Mike A

    Id love to finally get a heroine wearing tan nylons. Its been bandied about quite a bit on here but never seemed to come to fruition. Maybe shes a pro cheerleader in her normal life, and when she becomes a heroine, she decides to retain the tights. And also see her get ko’d in the outfit!

  110. @Decendingskulls: Brunette. Legs. Check. :)

    @Mike A: Tan Nylons… I didn’t forget– got one in the works for you! (KO included) ;)

    Logan

  111. @Mike A: I don’t have a photo just yet, but once I do, I’ll post it up on our site! We are creating a few new sub-characters for “Heroine Legends”– varying up the costumes a bit so we can be as diverse as possible– and casting now for a ‘Black Canary’ type character ;)

    Logan

  112. valugi

    Hi Logan

    Just to warn about the costumes I liked many of the costumes Allura, Vega and especially Mystic

    I particularly am a fan of skintight think they stand well the attributes of the heroines for example: Ms.Marvel for example, Power Girl and among others

    I also had estranged the release of episode 2.2 would be before demon Within the introduction of which would have vega and the whole story,

    do you have any release date for Demon Within so I can go saving the money to buy

    valugi

  113. HM Fan

    Logan,

    I see the challenges that you face trying to please all of us! It seems like we all like something different. I guess that’s why there are several characters and customs as options. Are you going to have an “all of the above guy” option in your polls? If not I have probably already tipped my hand – Asian and stomach. And also skimpier outfits. :)

    I just emailed you for information about a custom.

    HM Fan

  114. @valugi: “The Demon Within” is actually the film that introduces and explains who Vega is along with Dark Vega… I don’t have a release date, however, I am supposed to have the final product in my hands in the next 2 days. After I receive it, it takes me about another day to put my own final editing touches on it, then export, convert, upload, load into the billing system, and update to the website– I move pretty quickly once I get the finals back. I’m hoping for an early-next-week release, but if I get it sooner and can release sooner, I will, and I’ll have a post thrown up here for you guys!! Also, I see your costume likes and will keep that in mind!

    @HM Fan: Got your email and replied! I forgot to mention we have 2 more Asians to release soon– we need to build up the capital to buy their costumes, etc– “The Demon Within” launch delay really set us back with our scheduling, but we are almost back on track!

    Logan

  115. HM Fan

    Hi Logan,

    I didn’t get the email for some reason. Please re-send to me.

    Thanks!

  116. HM Fan

    And that is great news about the two new Asian ladies. Two new ladies AND the lovely actress playing Celestia! Wow!

    Look forward to hearing about the custom. Sorry it did not reach me – not in spam either.