Rolling Stone Article About Custom Videos

A recent article in Rolling Stone describes a shift in the porn/fetish industry towards custom videos, primarily as a way for producers to stay viable in the age of incessant piracy.

Rolling Stone Article About Custom VideosRolling Stone Article About Custom Videos

It’s really well written and worth reading. You can check it out here.

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KiriAegis
KiriAegis

The high price of customs is pretty ridiculous. Yeah there’s that value of having your own fantasy scenario, but like any other movie production there isn’t one with a story. In that regard someone on their end is converting into a usable script, but they’re basically getting free writing, and possibly free character concepts as well.

Plus, someone else is going to end up buying the video besides the one who ordered it. Sure they might be taking more of a financial chance with a custom, depending on the content, but a lot of customs I’m aware of are often better than the stock productions.

BigZee
Jacques

Whether customs are too expensive or not, is in the eye of the beholder so to speak. Take Ms. Carter for example, she has a business model or modus operandi which is expensive. Obviously, this could be a turn off for some people, nevertheless there must be a significant number of customers who are enamoured enough with her productions and who are willing to pay for customs to satisfy their personal fetishes. To repeat myself from an earlier post, that while Ms. Carter produces films which do not appeal to me, the quality of her productions is terrific. One should keep in mind that to do it right you do need a significant number of hours for filming. When you add the daily costs for actors plus locale, plus editing plus lots of miscellaneous expenses plus costume(s), you start to have a total which could be two grand and upwards. If you want an elaborate story with scripted dialogue, you might need two days of filming. In any case, if you haven’t already been doing it, one should negotiate all elements of cost. Unfortunately for myself, I had to learn this, hitting me in the pocket book. I have been using a producer who does his own editing. This has helped keep my costs lower. Other producers may also do this as well

LanceDance
LanceDance

Thats absolute stupid.
Custom costs from 5000 to 10000 Dollar.
I buy nearly every 2 months a custom between 150 $ and 800 $ for 1 hour.
That are porn stars too.
When Producers and starlets make their customs cheaper, i believe there will be more customers as everytime.

BigZee
Jacques

Well, if I was amazed with 5K, then I am even more amazed with 150 for a custom. Ms. Carter put her numbers into context and so I understand the logic of her pricing. Other producers have different methods to deliver a custom. Some producers do their own editing and some have the wherewithal to film several customs a day. I have never bought from her, nevertheless the photos and trailers do indicate a very high quality product with amazing actors.

shevek
shevek

I said this on the other forum too, but personally I’m wondering why the superheroine fetish community isn’t specifically mentioned in this article other than erroneous mention of a “Wonder Woman bikini” (it’s a full costume, buddy) if two of the three photos associated with this article are specifically from Christina’s SHIP videos. They seem to focus on the more unusual stuff – maybe the writer just thought SHIP was too tame?

LordSnot
LordSnot

It costs 5 grand to get a custom from Christina Carter??

BigZee
Jacques

Really, that is a very impressive sum of money. i take it that for this amount you get hardcore. I guess that the shoot will take place over several days.

p g
p g

It says in the article that she charges more for the videos like that particular one that she doesn’t think will sell well. If something is so hyper-specific that probably only you would be interested in it, then you have to underwrite more of the cost.

Christina Carter
Christina Carter

Correct, what you are paying is the overhead.. I only make money on the back end if it sells on the clip stores. I also am paying out a huge percentage to the clipstore and paying an assistant to send down takedown notices to all the tube sites when it is posted for free by some dumb schmuck that thinks he’s doing everyone favors. Bottom line… I’m not raking in the money by any means. Years ago.. 2010-2014.. we did make great $ in the fetish biz.. and then we had to put it all back in to try to stay a float. The people who shoot customs for very little $.. have a great paying NORMAL job and do this as a hobby. They also don’t really care what it looks like in the end. I know, because I shoot for a handful of these people. It all depends on what you want, as to who you want to shoot your custom. All I want is for you to be happy…

MAV
MAV

For an hour-ish long hardcore movie with a popular model, I guess that’s possible. I’ve never gone past mid-ish 3-figure quotes, although I have been tempted

BigZee
Jacques

In the past I did pay about 3k for a couple of customs. During the last 12 months, I had 5 customs filmed by Damien, they were all around 2K euros. Most of them were shot over 2 days. The costs covered actress salaries, rent for the locale and some miscellaneous items including food.
BTW, his videos have some awesome AOH sequences. While most of them are in the vertical position, there are a few which take place in a horizontal position. My personal favourite is the heroine stretched out in the bath tub and water boarded.

KiriAegis
KiriAegis

She’s good, but she’s not even close to THAT good.

Christina Carter
Christina Carter

Wow…lol.. everyone has a right to there opinion. I hope that someone is filling your orders and you are getting exactly what you want. I wish you the best

KiriAegis
KiriAegis

Sorry, nothing personal there. I’ve seen several of your vids and they’re all very good, but I feel the article is overstating the problem. NOTHING will get rid of net porn. They’d have to get rid of the net itself first. It’s not going anywhere, and the loss to piracy is overrated, or a lot of people would have gone under by now. All that said, it’s a film genre, just like any other, and we always like to see people put quality into their work. Offering customs is great, because most of us have ideas. I personally have ideas for original characters I’d love to see turned live, but again, yes these things cost money to make, but with a custom you’re getting free writing, at the very least from those of us that can offer a complete story, and are even willing to convert to a usable script, and lots of people still have the opportunity to buy it, so it’s not like any studio is banking just on the person that ordered it. You guys are going to make your money off it, so when we start talking heavy four-digits to get one rolling, I feel that price is also overrated.

swampy170
swampy170

On the one hand, you make fair points.

However, how well do you think a porn-writing gig pays?! They are not scrimping very much at all by not paying a writer!!

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Fair enough, having your own ideas produced in the form of a custom is not worth what Christina’s charging to you – I happen to agree with that point.

But there’s people who NEED exactly what they are asking for – and Christina provides that.

In order for her to produce these films exclusively, she would need to charge into the tens of thousands to recoup cost-price. Producing films in LA is hella pricey, particularly utilising quality filmaking talent – which is obvious by Christina’s production values!!

In a free-market economy where people can afford to pay Christina’s prices, which they obviously can by the number of customs she produces – clearly she IS that good!

Christina Carter
Christina Carter

It’s not just me, it’s everything you are getting.. the girls, location, the videographer. I don’t use just some guy with a camera. I understand a lot of people can not afford these prices. But let me tell you, when I am making a clip for you… with no funding.. I am using my $, my own.. and I pay 120/hr for camera and editing. Why? Because I have always felt it is quality above quantity. That’s just who I am. I do it for you.

Honest Fish
Honest Fish

Really interesting read. I had no idea that customs were becoming more the norm for the porn industry. i was under the impression that it was only for niche communities like the SHIP one but it looks like everyone’s getting in on the action. Maybe that’s why there’s been more superhero/dress up stuff on some mainstream sites.

Darkwrath016
Darkwrath016

I honestly would like to hear from a few producers what they’re thoughts are on this. For me, one of the major takeaways that I got was that this was an issue that was affecting the ENTIRE porn/fetish world and not just super heroine peril world. I had no idea that the issue was widespread. Another thing that really jumps out at me was just how wrong I was in regards to where the genre was in the normal business cycle. I had thought we were in the phase of ‘only the most efficient/best producers will be in business’ stage where the products were mature, there’s a wide selection for consumers and soaring profits are exchanged for steady cashflows that kept only the best of producers alive. I had no idea that we had shift to a completely different business model all together and the bottom had fallen out in the old world of ‘non customs’. Makes me wonder what other valleys are left for us to fall through.

.As for the shift itself and my thoughts on it…..hmmmm. For me the jury is still out I guess. Its hard for me to judge the quality of this new world mainly because so many things for me has changed. Back during the roaring days of the mid to late 2000s, I was completely cash strapped. I could probably afford four or so films in a year. Now I can order a couple of my own customs in that same time period so financially, I’m a lot better off. I can buy more stuff and take more chances as oppose to waiting for that super awesome trailer to rock my socks off, prompting me to buy the video right away. So I might be tempted to say that the quality in the early years was good but I was more selective back then too. At the same time, I worry about customs become super specific in terms of the fetish element thereby only appealing to one or two people instead of trying to garner broad support. Luckily that hasn’t hit genre (yet). Most of the customs I’ve seen feature a variety of stuff so there are generally elements in there that can be enjoyed by a lot of people. And there’s been a lot of really cool ideas too so that’s good.

The one major thing I worry about though in this age of customs is the current state of the PG13 subgenre. Twice now Heroine Movies has posted an announcement regarding customs with their actresses and in both cases there were people asking for whether or not they could include some R rated elements. Over almost two years, TBFE has produced I believe only six or seven PG13 films while all the others have been R rated. Layla who was a pure PG13 actress (and a great one at that) released a video that showed off her nipples and had a lot of sexual innuendos something I wouldn’t have dreamed possible earlier in the year. RYE UK (which i don’t even think is a customs production) produced a grand total of TWO PG13 films this year and I think the same can by said for RYE as well. My point being is that even if this customs only world is the only viable option for the genre, it sure does seem like the PG13 crowd is losing out on this. I guess the line of reasoning becomes if I’m going to spend 1000s of dollars on a custom I better see some skin. And there’s nothing wrong with that but it could leave those of us who like the PG13 stuff with no recourse.

BigZee
Jacques

For me, I am fortunate enough to have been be to able to afford several customs a year. This way, my customs can purely focus on the various options that are must haves for torture sequences (level of intensity, amount of time dedicated to a particular sequence, etc), bondage positions and story lines to satisfy my tastes and fetishes. There only a few producers that turn out films with elaborate story lines with only PG content that would interest me.
I am not into nudity, sex or quasi (aka simulated) sex, just give me great looking exposed abs which take a beating and I am a happy camper. Water tortures, AOH and electrocutions are other elements which can satisfy my fetishes. Given the level of violence and blood, I consider my customs to be the equivalent of a PG 17 rating. With customs, there must be a level of trust with the producer who has the final responsibility to put everything together. I have had some disappointments with another producer. Once we agreed on a scenario, he then decided to make a film his own way, sometimes ignoring what I had wanted.

Jeff
Jeff

I’m all honesty it isn’t too bad of a shift I believe, we get to see some interesting and awesome ideas come to life, although i don’t believe there was a time where that option was not available, besides the producers own awesome content. I just wish the shift wasn’t brought on by so many nasty pirates 🙁

solitary unraveling
solitary unraveling

If you see pirated videos you can always report them to the producers and then they can request the video to be taken down.

Valik
Valik

Unfortunately that only works for so long. All they do is take it down then simply rename it and put it right back up. It got so prevalent and I spent so much time writing these sites about stuff from my site that it wasnt worth the hassle anymore

solitary unraveling
solitary unraveling

That’s when you hire a 12 year old to write a bot for you that will automate most of that process. 🙂

Christina Carter
Christina Carter

I pay someone to do this, it’s a full time job. Sad to say. 🙁

Thank goodness for my custom guys, I’m not sure how any of us would make money in this business if it wasn’t for them. My crew is mainstream and expensive. But you get what you pay for. I pay my VP $120/hr.. most the the shoots we are there up to 7 hours.. that goes for editing too.. $120/hr. Luckily my fans/customers know they are getting a beautiful video in the end. People want paid. Plus, I refuse to ask the girls to take less $, they work their ass off and I treat them like they should be treated.

I wasn’t happy as I thought I’d be with this article. Kristen asked me so many questions and we went very deep into what are business is.. she put in the fluffy stuff. BUT.. I guess that is what sells their magazine, who knows.

Love you guys!!
Christina

Jeff
Jeff

You have many points ms Carter, you do work with some of the best and most talented people. And one yes! there should be more like you who treat their coworkers how they should be treated! Once again, I’m glad there are those who are able to request a custom from such an incredible store as yours so that we may see those talented people and bring some interesting and awesome ideas to life.

Thank you ms Carter, much love to you and your fantastic team.