SHG-Media’s “Liberty Girl – The Return”

by HM

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Before I say anything else, let me direct you to the comments below, many of which seem overwhelmingly positive in response to the video. Some viewers are calling Liberty Girl – The Return the best, or one of the best, superheroine peril movies ever made. Hey, I think it’s really good, with fight scenes that are really well done, solid performances, a nice visual style, good editing and high production values. That alone places it in a league above the majority of SHG-Media videos. But best of all time? Let’s take a look at the video.

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We begin with a group of masked evildoers moving boxes of drugs from a warehouse. These guys are clearly up to no good. Even if they weren’t involved in the drug trade, they’re wearing all black outfits and matching ski masks. That alone is enough to warrant an ass-kicking in the superheroine peril world. Right on cue, Liberty Girl arrives (in street clothes) and begins to administer said ass-kicking. Eventually, she transforms into her Liberty Girl outfit, which I think looks really good. In general, this fight scene is really well done with solid editing and fight choreography. A few shots are even really inventive in subtle ways; for example, Liberty Girl—in the foreground—says her line as a bad guy approaches from behind in the background. Most directors, I suspect, would have done this with two shots rather than one. But it’s much more effective this way, even if the shot only lasts a second or two. This is kind of stuff I really like about bpd’s videos.

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Next, Liberty Girl is attacked in her home by a masked thug. I have to say that this sequence is also very well done. bpd simply has the mind of a filmmaker. I won’t give away everything that happens in this scene, but I want to observe that bpd surprises the viewer by revealing events and ideas visually rather than through dialogue. The shots seem to be planned out this way. For example, at one point [minor spoiler] Liberty Girl tries to touch her bracelets together to transform into her superheroine outfit, but it doesn’t work because she’s missing a bracelet [end spoiler]. We realize this at the exact moment that Liberty Girl does because of the way the sequence has been filmed and the shots assembled. This isn’t necessarily a key moment of the video or anything; it’s just an example of how bpd and his creative team are simply better than most other producers at making films and telling stories visually.

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Liberty Girl gets captured and beaten up and tormented for the rest of the video. There’s an AOH scene (of about one minute), slapping, stomach punching and a few other moves. But the movie’s bread and butter is low blows. Tons of them. Now, I’m really not a fan of low blows. They just don’t do anything for me (God knows why). But for fans of low blows, this might be one of the best videos of all time. There are several low blows delivered throughout the video, and even though I lack the ability to judge such things, my inclination is to say that these may be the best low blows in any superheroine video. I hope a few low blow experts will correct me in the comments below if I’m wrong.

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Eventually, this torture scene veers off into sexually explicit territory, with Liberty Girl being groped, fondled and just plain raped (all simulated I’m sure, and there’s no nudity involved). Again, while I don’t personally care for sexually explicit material, it’s an interesting creative choice, and not something I expected from this creative team. But, like the rest of the video, this sequence is really well done, in my opinion. And fans of this sort of thing will love this conclusion to a video that is already really good.

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So is it the best superheroine video ever? Well, that’s quite a claim because we’re then comparing it to everything produced by Giga Freeks and Zen Pictures, which are, in my humble opinion, the best producers of superheroine and related videos in the world. With their gigantic budgets, perfect costumes, super-hot models and actresses, seamless editing, etc., Zen and Giga are the undisputed champions, in my opinion, and I don’t think I can say that Liberty Girl – The Returns ranks alongside them. But compared to most U.S. productions, it is really, really good and is undoubtedly one of the best SHG-Media videos I’ve seen. It features good performances, editing, fight choreography and a nice visual style. So, job well done, bpd, and I’m sure this is going to be a big hit for SHG.

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Purchase Liberty Girl – The Return at SHG-Media

{ 138 comments }

1 Rufus June 2, 2011 at 11:06 am

So the trailer says that the video is available now. Does that mean it’ll be available by the end of the day?

2 bpd June 2, 2011 at 11:16 am

It will be up this later this evening. Sorry for the delay.

3 Swampy170 June 2, 2011 at 11:20 am

Loving the costume – thinking this one’ll be a must buy!

4 Max June 2, 2011 at 11:35 am

About time a video worth watching.

5 Alex Bettinger June 2, 2011 at 2:05 pm

Looking forward to a review of this one!

6 V June 2, 2011 at 6:03 pm

Due to some hackers using stolen credit card numbers to attempt purchases on SHG-Media… the sale of this and any new videos will be postponed a few days while we get security in place.

Hopefully it will be up sooner rather than later.

-V

7 Rufus June 2, 2011 at 7:21 pm

Now I’m jonesing, I’ll have to pick this up next month instead. I need to get my itch scratched tonight! :)

8 bpd June 2, 2011 at 9:23 pm

Video will be up tonight… at some point. Itch can still be scratched! =)

SHG was not hacked. Credit card numbers from perhaps from the PSN (Playstation Network) hack were used to make purchases. Anyway, I’m told it has been straightened out. Store will be open, video will be for sale and glory will be had.

9 MAV June 3, 2011 at 2:18 am

Wow, V looks hot in that getup. Way to go V and BPD!

10 Disappointed June 3, 2011 at 9:13 am

It’s very frustrating that we never get an shg release at the time its promised… At this moment on the sight it says June 1st release date… here we are on the 3rd, after being told it’d be up last night and nothing… I’m not going to say I’ll take my business elsewhere cuz lets be honest… I wont… but it disappointing they have such little regard/dedication to their paying customers…

11 Bert June 3, 2011 at 9:43 am

No one wants to see this video more than I do, but come on – cut them a little slack. I have no doubt they intended to meet their deadlines, but stuff happens, sometimes at the last minute. Besides, this video has the potential to be amazing and a little extra anticipation isn’t the worst thing in the world.

12 ximi June 3, 2011 at 9:54 am

I am willing to wait a few days for this, the preview looks really promising.

Is this going to be a one-shot, or a new series? Hope it’s the latter…

13 bpd June 3, 2011 at 10:28 am

I understand the frustration. I wanted the video up on June 1st as well. I just wanted to take my share of the blame. I was given a deadline from SHG and I missed it. A small oversight was found and it had to be corrected. That of course meant re-rendering the whole video. Then on top of that with yesterday’s little credit card situation things have just been working against us getting this video out. Again I am sorry for the delay. Thank you for your patients and support.

@ximi – A trilogy has been planned. Of course that is dependent on the support and success of this first chapter.

14 Jose June 3, 2011 at 10:38 am

I am throwing my hat in with the “Cut the producers some slack” group. I mean, come one guys. Will it really kill you to wait a couple of more days?

The only time you should ever get upset or mad is if you are paying a monthly subscription and a producer is late with an update.

15 Disappointed June 3, 2011 at 11:56 am

@bpd… I understand/respect that stuff happens…no hard feelings here…In fact you’ll get my $$ka-ching$$ in support of the trilogy…

@everyone…not trying to attack or get THAT upset. Just seems everytime there is a release from shg it overruns the announced release date, sometime 2 or 3 times, for one reason or another, so venting my frustration… Don’t get me wrong I plan to live the next few days and buy the release as soon as i can… I’m just, y’know, saying…

16 Jose June 3, 2011 at 12:06 pm

@ Dissappointed

Yeah I know what you are saying, man. Sometimes we do need to vent frustration and this is practically the only sourse and medium that’ll listen, lol.

Imagine telling your wife or your significant other and venting on them. I’m sure some eyebrows would be raised, lol.

17 James June 3, 2011 at 1:24 pm

Any chance that its up in the next few hours? Can’t wait for it!

18 Sugarcoater June 3, 2011 at 5:09 pm

I understand those who are disappointed because of let downs from subscription sites (I.e. Superheroinecentral.com, formerly a favorite of mine). Every subscription site I have paid for has become grossly incompetent to ridiculously deceitful and unscrupulous with their updates (some going months without new material all while taking fans’ money.
What I appreciate are the Rye’s and bpd’s who do one time payments for a one time video. If they advertise a day and deliver late, it costs nothing and merely whets my appetite. If there is a slight bad taste left in my mouth, it’s because of the likes of cheats like DanO and others who make excuses every single week for their lack of material.
Keep up the great work, and terrific WW costume! Truly one of the best I’ve seen.

-SC

19 deathcake June 3, 2011 at 5:29 pm

Yeah, def. Cut them a little slack :) Alot of AAA computer games, often miss their release dates, and they have 100′s of people working on them :) One thing goes wrong when your a small team, and it can and most likely will cause problems.

Really looking forward to this so much. It just seems… different!

20 Stagger Lee June 3, 2011 at 5:59 pm

God, I’m so excited for this… and will most DEFINITELY be purchasing.

21 Jose June 3, 2011 at 6:30 pm

Yeah, I am afraid I have been swallowed up by the hype. It looks like I am going to be purchasing this one as soon as it gets released :)

Not a big fan of the costume, but I sure do love the stiff punches delievered and her reactions. They look stiff and not campy at all which is a breath of fresh air. That slap across her face around the 0:53 mark in the trailer and the way she lands is just sexy as hell.

22 ranger87 June 3, 2011 at 6:56 pm

Wow, I was surprised by the end of the trailor! SHG never really puts out stuff that adult or suggestively adult if it’s not Rye as the director. I might actually have to get this one!

23 John hugger June 3, 2011 at 7:02 pm

Well, i just tried download the video, but my credit card did not work it out. The same that i used other times. What’s happening?

24 John Hugger June 3, 2011 at 7:08 pm

Hey guys,

Anyone from outside USA already downloaded this video with visa?? Thanks

25 SHG-Media June 3, 2011 at 7:24 pm

Hi John, The video is not for sale yet… Its downloading to the server as we speak. However… a couple of notes to keep in mind when making credit card purchases from our site.. If you have multiple fails (declined attempts) the system will lock you out. Additionally, the bank that issued your credit card MUST support what is called AVS (Address verification). Most US based card issues do support this but many outside the US do not. When using your credit card on our site be sure that the information you enter, matches exactly how it appears on your credit card statement (Name, address, ect, ect). If they do not match perfect OR if your bank does not support AVS, the transaction will be declined. There are two other payment options listed if VISA/MC fails.

26 MAV June 3, 2011 at 7:52 pm

Btw SHG-that new wondergirlz model looks HOT in the trailer you posted. Cant wait to see what the site looks like when its live.

27 Sugarcoater June 3, 2011 at 7:54 pm

Please consider adding stills to this review if/when they become available.

28 darklord June 3, 2011 at 7:57 pm

wondergirlz looks amazing, you guys are on a roll it seems

29 SHG-Media June 3, 2011 at 8:05 pm

Hey Mav and Darklord… Thanks for your comets on our new WonderGirlZ girl. We have been really pleased with her. Great girl.. Fun to work with… and very hard working. Hope to send lots of work her way. :) Cant wait to get the site up… and a video out!!

30 Stagger Lee June 3, 2011 at 8:59 pm

More of WonderGirlZ in the blue bodysuit please! She looks so hot in that outfit.

Also, unrelated but has anyone seen this guy Astraton’s videos on YouTube? He’s been working on this movie for a while that’s unlike any superheroine movie I’ve ever seen.

http://youtu.be/V-ex3noHzPc

31 ximi June 3, 2011 at 9:17 pm

Is this a site record for number of comments *before* a movie actually released?:-))

32 Alan June 3, 2011 at 9:23 pm

Re: WonderGirlZ — I’m fond of the 2-piece costumes.

33 SHG-Media June 3, 2011 at 9:33 pm

its up!! Enjoy. :)

34 darklord June 3, 2011 at 10:29 pm

honestly, that was the best superheroine movie i have ever purchased. i don’t want to gush and come off as if i am just “in the moment” with my review, but this video sets the standard by which all superheroine vids should be measured against. This was head and shoulders above other vids.

What i loved most was the “seroius” and perilous tone that this movie is set in. As much as I like Alex Bettinger’s movies, they always seem a lil campy and while they’re good i prefer the more hardcore stuff. LG definitely delivers in that department. And the actress is great, she really sells it well and there was a perfect balance of the heroine being cocky, having the upperhand and getting her a$$ kicked in.

The ending was a bit rushed – but i guess since its part 1 in a trilogy i can let the rushed ending slide.

This was worth every penny.

35 SHG-Media June 3, 2011 at 10:40 pm

Hey DarkLord… Can I quote you on our store? :P

36 Jose June 4, 2011 at 12:59 am

Oh my god!!! Go and purchase this video right now.

This movie was shot beautifully. I do not even know where to begin and will probably leave something out by accident. There are just simply too many postives to hit on.

I have to mirror what a previous poster has stated, this is one of the best superheroine purchases I have ever made. Everything works in this movie.

The camera work is excellent. I just love the grittiness of it all. It helps set the mood perfectly. The cameraman and director should be commended. I love the great mixutre of camera angles and just how flirtatious the camera gets. It gets nice angles of the heroine’s ass and chest without slowing down the pace of the movie. It sort of reminds me of the camera work from the Japanese superheroine film co Giga Freeks. I was also amazed at how the director used the camera to his advantage when filming several stunts within the movie. Other producers should take note, because it just blew me out of the water. My favorite trick they pulled with the camera was during the spot where Liberty Girl does a “hurricanranna” on one of the bad guys.

The action is just off the charts. There are so many great spots and it is a great mixture of the heroine looking strong and getting her ass kicked. I loved the fight scene between her and the group of masked thugs in the beginning of the movie. Superb. We also get some very nice special effects.

The peril was some of the best I have seen in a long time. I just love how the actress sold every blow and all her reactions. If you are a fan of low blows, this video is low blows galore. I love how they are done here because each low blow is significant. I just hate how some producers out there do continuous punches over and over again and from the same angle. In this film, we have none of that and the actress is allowed enough time to react to each blow.

There is also a lot of sexual peril if you are into that sort of stuff. Liberty Girl gets fondled up pretty nicely on more than one occassion and gets taken at the very end, which was sexy as hell. One of my favorite spots was when Liberty Girl was knocked out and the main villain starts his fondling and LG starts moving her body around very erotically until she finally realizes what the villain is doing to her.

My only complaint (and this comes down to just personal taste) was the costume. The boots were very nice and I loved the bracelets, but it was just the outfit that I did not find appealing. It looked rather cheap and I hated that is wasn’t a one-piece. The panties were too low cut and did not a poor job of highlighting the actress’s voluptuous figure.

I am actually suprised, becasue costume is #1 for me when it comes to superheroine movies and this is the first movie that I actually enjoyed where I hated the look of the costume. The movie just that good.

All in all, Liberty Girl: The Return is one of the best superheroine films I have seen in a long time. The plot never drags and is always straight to the point and all the performers did an excellent job.

BPD has surely got my full attention now. Thank you for a great movie! :)

37 saxman314 June 4, 2011 at 2:40 am

Uh… damn. DAAAAAAYYYYYUUUUUUUUUUUUUMMMMMMMMMMMM! Damn damn damn damn damn! Damn. Best video I’ve seen in a long time. Maybe ever. Slight complaint: audio seems to fluctuate pretty intensely between one camera angle and another. You wind up cranking up the speakers and in the next cut it’s suddenly much louder. Other than that, this is pretty much my perfect video. Content, pacing, building up the heroine before taking her down, a good back-and-forth with the villain as she thinks she can win, and the inevitable conclusion: perfect. The model was gorgeous (I’ve always been a fan), and her acting was great! Thank you.

38 James June 4, 2011 at 4:00 am

Best video up to date in my opinion! Only small complaint is the ending, there was a really fast and hard cut. Looking forward to the other ones.

39 deathcake June 4, 2011 at 4:20 am

I was buying this anyway, but Jesus, i’m super hyped for it now. Going off to buy!

40 rizo June 4, 2011 at 4:49 am

Hey SHG,

Is the new Wondergirlz model available for a superheroine custom? Where can we see more of this model online?

The new video looks awesome by the way, I will purchase it real soon. I remember that model from the old SHG pic stories, I always liked her, She’s awesome.

41 SHG-media June 4, 2011 at 5:58 am

HI Rizo,
“IF” she becomes available for customs, it wont be until August or September. Presently she is shooting with only us for this genre. I believe she will eventually be opening her own fashion / glamor/ art site, which we will likely link to from our sties. Best to check back on our sites for details as they become available.

42 bpd June 4, 2011 at 6:41 am

I’m overwhelmed… Thank you for your positive feed back. I spent a lot of time on this film and I was stressing out on whether or not it would be well received. Some of the comments are truly AWESOME! I agree with those that that the ending is a bit quick but it leads into the next chapter and I didn’t want to leak that part of the story. However a lot of thought went into whether or not I should add exposition to the story or not. I just have some bigger plans and I hope you are willing to take that trip with Liberty Girl and I. Any questions you have I’m here to answer. Thanks again for your support!

-bpd

43 Stagger Lee June 4, 2011 at 7:32 am

I just finished watching it, and I have to agree with everyone that this is arguably the best superheroine peril movie ever. All the technical aspects of filmmaking are done SO well here. The acting is fantastic, Alex’s reactions are perfect. This movie has a little bit of everything, and it’s all executed fantastically.

To all the other producers out there: the bar has been set.

44 babca11 June 4, 2011 at 8:11 am

this video is WWWWWWWWWOOOOO-
OOOOOOOOWWWWWWWW
im ready for the next episode

45 rizo June 4, 2011 at 9:09 am

Hey Bpd,

I’m not going to ask you to reveal anything about the upcoming chapters of Liberty Girl, of course, but I would like your opinion on superheroine vids in general. I’ve done a bunch of superheroine customs with DT, and one running theme in my customs is down endings, where the heroine ends up losing, being enslaved, or being killed.

How do you feel about down endings, and would you ever imagine yourself heading in that direction with your heroine videos?

46 Charles June 4, 2011 at 9:12 am

simply THE BEST!! Other producers, take notes!!
man this video had everything.. I do agree the ending seemed a bit rushed but other than that this video was one of the best ever. I’d put this together with crimsonhawk’s classic ep3~4. That was my favourite of all time but after watching this one now have 2 favourites :)

If all your films are like this, I’m becoming a regular :) GREAT WORK.

47 Descartes June 4, 2011 at 10:36 am

How’s the rape scene at the end? Does it play out for a while or is it over before it starts? This is the biggest factor in buying it for me, as I’m all about the sexual peril. Sounds like the actress has an ass-kicking warrior scream when she’s fighting, but what about when she’s being dominated?

48 eminhimer June 4, 2011 at 11:09 am

I thought the lighting could have been better.

49 deathcake June 4, 2011 at 12:09 pm

I hope that bpd doesn’t start to add too much fetish elements into future productions, with regards to requests. This film was so excellently balanced and didn’t concentrate on anything in particular. It all worked, and there wasn’t really a scene that was added and prolonged, like a chloro scene, or an over the shoulder carry scene. You can spot these scenes being dropped into productions to get a fetish element in there.

Bravo sir. Bravo!

50 Boots June 4, 2011 at 12:43 pm

I know most people will hate me for saying this, but I would have paid even more for this video. I think you undercharged. It’s that good!!! I don’t know why other producers find it so difficult to produce this type of quality and scene production.
Uhhh, you guys at SHG should give a class.

51 Rye June 4, 2011 at 1:09 pm

Just got done watching and I have to say that was really damn good guys!

Punished Heroines fans-
Go get this one, you will like it :)

Rye

52 Gorleser June 4, 2011 at 1:49 pm

Ditto all the other praise. This is the best example of the genre.

I have to echo something Jose wrote: I don’t even like low blows, and this movie was so well made that I loved every one. bpd “gets it”, and has created something we can all enjoy irrespective of personal tastes.

Now, I need a list of other movies bpd has done so I can start downloading…

53 deathcake June 4, 2011 at 3:27 pm

If you goto shg-media.com, you can filter by producer, but to be honest, this production in my opinion, is greater than the other two listed on there, many times over.

54 bpd June 4, 2011 at 3:53 pm

Again, thank you all for the great comments.

@rizo – I’m not opposed to down/death endings but it would have to be in service of the story I was telling.

@deathcake – You bring up a good point about adding too much into a film. We even dealt with that a bit in this LG vid. We originally shot an alternate AOH scene that was quite a bit longer. However we didn’t like how if fit into the film and it seemed clunky. There is a fine line and I think we found that balance.

@Gorleser – I’ve only done two other films and they can both be found at SHG-media.com. Reviews can also be found here on HM’s site.

55 johnHugger June 4, 2011 at 4:18 pm

SHG,

Is there any reverse bearhug in this video?! Anyone can tell me? Thanks

56 MAV June 4, 2011 at 4:40 pm

hope you SHG guys put up that AOH scene separately somewhere;)

57 Alex Bettinger June 4, 2011 at 5:20 pm

I too enjoyed this video very much–mostly because Alex David did a superb job acting out her peril, and because she looked just too cute in that costume!

I actually think what makes this video so good is the way it handles its NON-peril material–the camerawork, for example, is truly excellent when it’s showing off Alex’s body (almost innocently, without being too pervy) prior to or in between peril shots. The vid does a superb job of rousing the viewer’s interest in this way over and over again, which makes the peril that much more satisfying. And what an ass on that girl, heh heh.

I am less enthusiastic about other aspects of the video–the fight scenes I thought were average at best, the acting (line delivery) was wooden almost all around, and there were several technical defects that continuously prevented me from believing that this was a real movie or show, etc. (mostly due to poor editing–the audio changing drastically from cut to cut, for example, is a technical defect that a good editor can easily cure). Lighting was a problem too. The image quality and character changed drastically and frequently, which was visually jarring. As if they used several completely different cameras with completely different levels of quality.

But then, those kinds of technical shortcomings easily take a back seat to Alex David’s incredibly sexy moans and whimpers of helplessness, as she’s rendered completely helpless by the bad guy. So while I can’t agree that this video sets any “bar” (it’s far below the quality at Next Global Crisis and Giga Freeks, for example), I definitely recommend it!

58 Stagger Lee June 4, 2011 at 5:34 pm

@Alex Bettinger – first of all, where has superheroineworld been at? as a long time fan, and consumer of many of your videos, I’ve been dying for some new stuff.

Also, don’t take this the wrong way but while I agree with you that some of the best aspects of the movie are the non-peril aspects, I also think your criticism are off base (to a point) and sound somewhat resentful. It kind of makes me wonder if it has to do with the fact that fans are absolutely gushing over this movie, while Blue Rain had a seemingly lukewarm reception. The reason I say this is because I felt it was VERY easy to get sucked into this film and forget it’s just a fictional fetish film. Out of all the fetish flicks I’ve seen of this kind, I honestly think this one comes closest to an actual movie or tv show.

Again, I don’t mean to offend you here, as I am a pretty big fan of your work and SHW is possibly my favorite production team of them all – just bringing up a point that when I read your comment, that was the first thing that crossed my mind.

59 Stagger Lee June 4, 2011 at 5:45 pm

@Alex Bettinger – ehh now that I think about it, I retract my previous statement about Alex sounding resentful. You’re actually just giving constructive criticism to a newer producer, which is cool. I think I’m just crabby because I want some new SHW stuff!!!!

60 Alex Bettinger June 4, 2011 at 5:57 pm

Well, I suppose you are entitled to your opinion about me and my motives, it’s all good. :) Of course, I gave a good review of this video (which I very much enjoyed!), so I am perplexed by your seemingly personal attack, but hey, I invite you to address the points I made.

I made specific points about the video, things I liked and things I didn’t like. The audio shifts in the vid, for example, is something that is objectively there in the video. I didn’t make it up. The changes in image quality is also objectively there. Now, you might not care about those things–but they affected my viewing experience. Those things and other shortcomings prevented me from being sucked in. And in addition to being a producer, I am also a huge fan and a customer who paid $30 for this video, and I think I have a right to give my two cents, no? Can’t someone have a different reaction to this video than you did, without being accused of ulterior motives?

As for Blue Rain–I will simply say it is our TOP selling movie of all time, and continues to sell incredibly well and has gotten us hundreds of new and “mainstream” porn fans to take notice of us (which was the whole point of the movie to begin with). We knew from the outset that the peril fans wouldn’t be particularly crazy about that movie. So if there is any movie that I’ve worked on that I could NOT possibly be angry or resentful about, it’s Blue Rain! That movie has exceeded my wildest expectations. But this is not the thread to discuss Paris’s and my works, so lets not get into that here.

So don’t get all huffy just because I didn’t get the same thrill from this video that you did–I really enjoyed it, and I also didn’t think it was the best video ever. This board is supposed to be a place where we can all share our points of view, no? Can’t I join in the conversation too? :)

61 Alex Bettinger June 4, 2011 at 5:59 pm

Okay, well in that case I retract whatever I said back to you, @StaggerLee, lol….

It’s all good, let the discussion continue!

62 Stagger Lee June 4, 2011 at 6:15 pm

@Alex Bettinger – Haha, I have to say your response to my original statement is entirely fair, and I do not blame you. And I appreciate your kindness upon seeing my retraction. Like I said, I’m a huge fan and while I didn’t purchase blue rain due to it not being necessarily my cup of tea, I’m genuinely stoked to hear about the great reception it received! I was wrong for initially implying in any way that you (being a fellow producer) aren’t entitled to an opinion here, because you very much are.

With that being said, it’s time for some updates on SHW, no?

63 Swampy170 June 4, 2011 at 8:09 pm

Some pretty good fight scenes, with some great bearhugs. Though I’m not massively into crotch shots – the ones in this video are really pretty well done.

The technical aspects are also pretty good, with some good camera work – perhaps some small amounts of playing with white balance and contrast just to top it off at the editing stage?

Also, as Alex says above, some varying picture quality – though a minor nit-pick.

Altogether a pretty great video – probably top three best from SHG. Well worth a look!

64 Valik10 June 4, 2011 at 10:20 pm

Just bought this and I agree that Alex David looks pretty hot in the costume and does a good job of acting tough and helpless. But I can see Alex’s point on some of the scenes that appear to be shot with different cameras of different quality. also at times it seems like the footage is almost moving too fast or jerky in some areas. OVerall it was ok but not great or better than anythign else out there. I wouldnt say its the greatest superheroine video of all time by any stretch

65 deathcake June 5, 2011 at 5:52 am

I don’t think the quality of the camera or the lighting is relevant tbh. You can have the best technical quality in a production, excellent lighting, brilliant costumes and great picture quality, and a really crap film. The film will be crap. All that stuff disappears. Look at superheroine films done by hollywood. Elektra ring any bells?

A great superheroine film IMO is the actual film itself and it’s content, and the way the director goes about delivering that. As mentioned above, I haven’t seen as balanced a superheroine film, in like forever. The heroine struggled back and forth. She looked powerful, she looked the part, she had the presence, she took the blows without looking a completely hopeless mess after a couple of hits.

Genuine question here. Could anyone point me to a super heroine film in those regards, that is better than this one?

66 Charles June 5, 2011 at 7:05 am

@deathcake, like I said above, imo crimsonhawk ep3-4 holds up there with this video :)

@AlexB, would you mind letting your fans know about your next SHW video? or HH? :S

67 Woelfchen June 5, 2011 at 8:00 am

Hey everyone,

I think this video looks great and I just wanted to buy it… but there is a problem
at SHG-Media … did anyone have the same problem?

Take care
Dobby

68 darklord June 5, 2011 at 8:25 am

LOL, Alex… don’t throw stones from a glass house dude. As great as the “production values” and “technical” aspects of your films are, blue rain was horrible and an awful disappointment. With models and costumes as hot as you had in that film, you somehow managed to make an 85 minute snooze fest of a movie. All the production values, good lighting, and fight choreography in the world can’t mask an otherwise dull movie.

You surely are allowed to voice your opinion and give a small dose of criticism where necessary, but as another producer and thus a “competitor” of sorts, you have to realize by writing a novel long review nit-picking at every flaw in the movie, the perception is going to be as if you’re bitter. And perception is often reality. The fact that you went as far as to quote “setting the bar” says to me you got your panties in a bunch b/c in my review i mentioned this movie is so good b/c it is a lot more “serious” in tone compared to other movies, in which i specified your movies.

I’m sure Rye doesn’t think this movie is the “best heroine movie of all time” but if you notice his comments he gave support b/c im sure he realizes if he disputes that claim he’ll come off all bitchy and whiney like you did.

As far as giga – of course those movies have the best sets, costumes, props, etc. But those movies suffer from the fact that a) they are not in english (thats a fairly big flaw for me) and b) only a small portion of their models are hot. Most are attractive in some way (nice slim bodies usually) but a lot of them have jacked up faces and/or teeth.

I stand by my claim, that for the money, this movie is awesome and had the perfect balance of all the aspects that I look for in a heroine film.

69 Alex Bettinger June 5, 2011 at 9:42 am

Why so angry, Darklord? I mean, you sound WAY more “bitchy and whiny” than I did, lol. Just relax, or else you sort of destroy your point by being guilty of what you are trying to criticize.

I won’t talk about works that I’ve worked on here, as I said before–it’s not a thread devoted to me or Paris so I’ll drop the pointless jabs taken at Blue Rain (which, as I’ve said, wasn’t a peril movie to begin with).

But Darklord–think about it: here is this new video that comes out, a bunch of people are gushing over it, and saying that it’s the BEST superheroine movie ever made. Am I going to watch it?? Hell yeah I am! And if I watch it, and if I not only don’t find it to be the best superheroine movie ever made but actually find a lot of problems with it (after spending $30 for it–which is a lot for a video that is less than a half hour after the behind the scenes footage is taken out), then HELL YEAH I am going to post my review. Both as a fan AND as a producer. Because that’s what these forums are for–to get a bunch of different perspectives. I have received tons of good reviews, and tons of bad reviews. Do you REALLY think this movie is so good that no one can say ANYTHING negative about it? Everyone must love it as much as you, or else they must have ulterior motives?

So yes, if people hadn’t gushed over this movie so much, I probably wouldn’t have said anything. It’s precisely BECAUSE people gushed over this movie so much, precisely because people said this movie “set the bar,” that I was moved to buy it, and also moved to review it after watching it. And precisely *because* my perspective seemed different than yours.

I really really really enjoyed this movie. And I also genuinely don’t believe it’s the best superheroine movie ever made. Not by a longshot.

That YOU are getting so very upset by that fact is what is most surprising and, to be honest, a little inexplicable. Makes me wonder, actually…

By the way, I’m afraid I have to disagree with @Charles, too: I think Crimson Hawk episodes 3 and 4 are HORRIBLE, lol. Done when I was very green with terrible equipment and virtually no script. I would readily admit that Liberty Girl is *way* better than those, ha ha.

70 Dark J June 5, 2011 at 10:25 am

First I just want to say how happy I am that I found this blog and consequently the producers I wasn’t aware of before I did. I love Rye’s movies and I have to say that this one was excellent, too. Alex David looks great and plays the super-heroine extremely well. The costume I liked – the bottoms looked really good on her magnificent derriere and the top was a good complement to her lovely chest. With that said, like Jose I would have preferred a one-piece cut higher on the hips. Her beautiful figure would look even better in something like that. The action was well done, Alex’s reactions to the punishment were excellent, lots of good butt shots, which I always appreciate, and as an added bonus, I really enjoyed the scene in her bedroom with her sleeping – nice camera shot and sexy panties. I understand about the cameras as some above have pointed out, but I still thought the film had a cool and unique look that I appreciated. Great work, bpd.

71 Jose June 5, 2011 at 10:50 am

Wow! It does seem kind of personal, now doesn’t it? I mean, I don’t get all butt hurt if someone doesn’t share my opinion. Hell, I could attack the dozens of you who are satisfied with the look of Liberty Girl’s costume( it’s just low cut panties with a huge belt and a generic WW top) but I don’t lol. It’s rather quite silly.

Anyway, instead of arguing with producers maybe we should help them out and list all the things we liked about LG and want to see in other videos out there. Help them help us, lol.

Here…I’ll start with a couple.

1) The main element that I would love for other producers to maybe take from LG is the pacing and how the movie was shot. The film never seems to drag and has a constant motion to it. I won’t list names but there are too many superheroine vids out there where I see the action start and then stop to accommodate some fetish or do some fruitless exposition. With LG, everything seemed to fit naturally. I think one way it accomplished this was through clever camera work. During the stair fight scene, the camera keeps switching to shoot from different angles, keeping it fresh.

2) The action is another thing that I loved about LG and would like to see other producers improve in their superheroine vids. The punches never seem to get repeative here. They are all thrown from different angles and never is there a moment where the villain just pins the heroine to the wall and punches her repeatly in the stomach or crotch. I hate when producers do that in their movies and most of them shoot it from the same angle to save time.

72 ximi June 5, 2011 at 11:53 am

Probably just me, but I am not all that impressed with the flow and balance. By trying to keep a fairly large story packed into 30 minutes, parts of the movie seems a bit “rushed” to me. Maybe that’s exactly a good point for many others (in sense it doesn’t stay on any single thing very long), but for me that’s a down. Also personally I’d like some more action and beating, less groping scenes – if we are going to focus on sexual scenes, they yes I’d like to have at least partial nudity (is that totally out of question for Alex? :-)), like some of Rye’s recent works.

Regardless though, it’s still an outstanding movie I totally enjoyed, for a simple reason: Alex is just superb in her role. I’d say all models in this genre should look at her performance and learn the right way to do it. As long as she is leading, there will always be a purchase from me…

73 Sugarcoater June 5, 2011 at 9:26 pm

At the risk of being the annoying guy who pipes in when all that needs to be said, here are my five cents:
1. Love the costume. The closer to THE one and only true Wonder Woman outfit, the better. I would have loved to see that outfit used in the Gigantor video. Please continue using/improving on the Wonder Woman outfit (though it’s just about there).
2. I appreciate Alex’s observations as they are from a colleague who may be providing helpful suggestions to continue the improvement of an already stellar video.
3. (Off topic–bring back Lux in her Blue Rain outfit and have her fight a younger Crimson Hawk character in the original Crimson Hawk outfit.)
4. Bpd, please whet our appetite with an idea as to what might be in the next part of the three parter.
5. Have a scene where Liberty Girl gets drenched or dunked in water (or some other gooey fluid). Seeing her in a soaked outfit with disheveled hair would be amazingly hot. Just a humble opinion.

Lastly, to all those who are producing these fantastic videos, thank you very much for all you’re doing. Sure, there is some capitalism to it, but still, thank you for all your efforts and patience. You all rock!

-SC

74 decendingskulls June 5, 2011 at 11:42 pm

So, I am one of the many people “gushing” over this movie.
It is awesome in so many fun and stylistic ways, but most importantly, it is SEXY!!!

Bottom line: This movie gives the people what they want and does it with style.

My first point may sound boring but it is crucial: This film delivers in an area that is often lacking – ACTING! Other producers, PLEASE take note of this. Acting can make or break these films regardless of all else. All the actors deliver here like rarely seen in the genre. Alex David gives a knockout performance that would have carried the entire film on it’s own, but thankfully everything else is in order as well. The villains do an excellent acting job as well, especially Obsidian. The camerawork is awesome, as has already been stated by earlier comments. I quite like the dark and gritty feel of it. While true that when compared to Bettinger’s work it is not visually as consistent (and certainly not as studio-bright), I do not mind this one bit. Bettinger is clearly a studied and experienced filmmaker and has his own style. However I for one am happy to have a variety of styles coming from different producers.

Anyone who has been around superheroine forums knows that people are usually all to eager to be overly critical. This movie would not be receiving so many positive reviews for no good reason, unless we were all like paid off to write good comments (yeah right). Some of the most successful and popular superheroine videos in the history of the genre had some glaring flaws. Super Heroine Central used cheap cameras and terrible voice-overs. Punished Heroines’ early videos had very low budget sets and production. Yet these videos succeeded usually on great performances from the main actress and most likely good direction from the filmmaker.

This is light-years beyond bpd’s previous Liberty Girl installments, which I always found kind of lacking but showed much promise of good things to come. One thing that I always liked that has been consistent in all the LG films is how the camera devours every inch of Alex David’s beautiful body. This is another thing that other producers should REALLY study – it makes such a difference.

Oh and I’m with Rizo for down endings, particularly ending in the heroine’s demise.
That to me is probably the only thing lacking in this film with regards to my own tastes.
I understand the hesitation to kill a character that you might want to use again.
You could just do what SHC always did, and create 2 alternate endings – a winning ending and a demise ending. That way you can always follow up on the winning ending next time.

75 bpd June 6, 2011 at 2:20 am

@Sugarcoater – Ummmm… I’d like to have some girl on girl action in the next LG chapter. However, the next chapter is a bit far off. Probably won’t be shot till the end of summer, so the script could change/evolve from what I have now. I kinda feel like I have this big target on me now and I’m feeling the pressure.

@decendingskulls – Thanks for your great comments. I just wanted to point of that I didn’t work on the previous Liberty Girl videos. Those were completely SHG in house productions. Perhaps you meant my two Injustice Girl films? Either way thanks again!

Also I just wanted to add that I never intended people to argue over my work and have it used to tear someone else’s down. I don’t know Alex Bettinger but I respect him for supporting my film and leaving his comments. In many cases he is right about the technical aspects of the film. An error was made of the 2nd camera and I had to do my best to fix it in post. This is a great community and I think it’s strength comes from the communication between the fans and creators. Lets keep that alive and leave the beatings for the super heroines.

76 Woelfchen June 6, 2011 at 10:48 am

Hey everyone,

I posted a couple of days ago and there is still a mistake when I try to purchase the movie.

I live outside the US.

Did anyone else have a problem too?

Take care
Dobby

77 swampy170 June 6, 2011 at 12:03 pm

@Woelfchen

What was the error?

I had a server busy error when I attempted to buy it the first time – that was fixed by waiting a short while before re-trying it.

78 Woelfchen June 6, 2011 at 12:17 pm

Hey guys,

that’s what it said ..

Microsoft OLE DB Provider for ODBC Drivers error ’80040e37′

[Microsoft][ODBC Microsoft Access Driver] The Microsoft Jet database engine cannot find the input table or query ‘CartItems’. Make sure it exists and that its name is spelled correctly.

/storemanager/objects/cart.asp, line 83

79 V June 6, 2011 at 1:30 pm

Woelfchen
you need to email SHG-Media directly at admin@netcode.com
give as much info about your attempted purchase as you can so he can track the sale.

80 (Not so) Disappointed June 6, 2011 at 4:03 pm

@bpd- great job! I really enjoyed the movie! I think the rape scene was the best I’ve seen… No nudity needed! I thought it was funny and somewhat fitting that Obsidian thought he had her after that… What man doesn’t think his dick brainwashes women lol! Certainly worth my money and highly anticipating the second instalment…

@shg… the sexual assault I think is whats long been missing from your vids so glad to see them heading that way. Personally I think that’s what hyped everyone up so much… Other than some light fondling we’ve seen lots of Alex David in peril (fantastic peril) but never seen her taken that way! Mmmm, delicious… More please! Thank you!

@everyone else… I think you’re kind of over hyping this movie don’t you? It hasn’t changed the genre or provided anything the other producers haven’t… Well some others. Liberty Girl the return is definitely comparable to what AB did with the Dark Falcon/Ninja Hawk series, particularly episode one… Or the Paris Vampire slayer storylines… And I like Alex David a lot, like A WHOLE LOT but performance-wise is there any better the Paris Kennedy? I think not… In fact I think Alex Bettinger is working with the best stable of talent over all… But I’m not trying to run anyone down… Truth is I love this whole community and think everyone is absolutely essential… I love Valik and Heroineperil.com for their barebones peril because sometimes I just want to see a heroine stripped and tormented and not be dazzled by the production value… I love the campy style and casts and the superb production values of Alex Bettinger… And the variety of shg… I’ll buy a bpd production like this everytime! But I’m not sure its redefined the genre and i don’t want every producer to turn out movies like this. Although I must acknowledge that it has generated this much chatter and discussion… that alone is noteworthy.

Anyway… Great job to all!!

81 John Letter June 6, 2011 at 5:24 pm

Sorry everyone I wasn’t impressed, lighting bad but graded to pull up the blacks and colour, in fact the grading was not consistent but my guess is that they didn’t have any lights. I didn’t like the costume nor did I think the girl was good looking. In fact she was not sexy at all a bit over weight, legs and bum too much fat. On the plus side I did like the bear hug bit and the fight wasn’t too bad but that’s about it. But I guess being out numbered on my view is not going to go down well. :-( I’d like to see one where the super heroine is really sexy like the glamour models at SuperSexyHeroines.com and the lighting and story is as good as Next Global Crisis, now that would be one worth buying :-)

82 sugarcoater June 6, 2011 at 5:31 pm

Apologies for posting about it here, but it seemed the best place to ask: where can I buy the “Super Lady” Giga video that is previewed here:
http://hvsp.blog.com/2010/11/09/review-super-lady-giga-platinum/

Has anyone bought it already? If so, is it a safe purchase? I was screwed over by Zen Pictures a while back when the took my money but never sent the link. Any help will be appreciated.

-SC

83 Scott June 6, 2011 at 5:43 pm

I know it’s not the place, but I have the video sugarcoater. From the stuff I have seen you write on here or your yahoo group, I dont know if it would be your cup of tea. I think it’s one of the best vids I have ever seen, but everyone is entitled to their own opinion. I was fortunate to fInd it online to download but the site I would recommend for any Giga videos wOuld be here: http://www.femfightsvideo.com/index.asp

84 Rufus June 6, 2011 at 6:48 pm

I’m not sure where all the talk about THE GREATEST SUPERHEROINE MOVIE is coming from. It’s either the fans having too low of expectations for a movie or the producers are overhyping their product for the sake of sales. I saw it and although it was good it was far from great. It ain’t the best like everyone says.

85 evilyan June 6, 2011 at 9:54 pm

:D Glad to hear about the more sexual aspects. I’m all for the more softcore stuff, but it’s nice to see branching out XD And it doesn’t hurt that I prefer vids that way. Will download!

86 saxman314 June 6, 2011 at 10:10 pm

For me it was great because of the content. The technical aspects didn’t bother me much, and someone like Alex Bettinger is obviously going to notice many, many more things than an average viewer, but for me, they got the important stuff right: hot girl with a great voice, a heroine with established dominance going up against a higher-up bad guy and getting beat, a good attempt on the part of the heroine to win, clear expressions of pain/fear/submission from the heroine, and getting taken at the end.

No peripheral fetish B.S.: “belly-punching,” “debooting,” “foot worship,” “ragdoll/limp-play,” “lift and carry,” “smoking,” “girl-on-girl,” “magic wand,” “sleepy/chloro,” and even exotic (in the regular world) bondage gear are not part of my personal fetish at all. It’s just straight-up superheroine domination and rape that I dig. I like plenty of videos that have some of those other things, but this video is proof that trimming all the superfluous stuff out makes the video MUCH better for me.

That’s one reason, aside from some others listed here, that I can NEVER consider the majority of Giga videos “best in class.” They are so bloated with crap that for me, they are at best vaguely satisfying between videos from Rye or Bettinger (or bpd!), and at worst, really disappointing. I mean, really, because you liked seeing Batgirl get tied up as a kid, or you always wanted to bang Wonder Woman, or you thought Supergirl could come down a notch… does that really mean you wanna see some oiled up Japanese chick with “jacked up” teeth screaming while a guy in a rubber suit pretends to electrocute her by shaking a plastic toy back and forth while she pees herself? For like sixty dollars? Weak.

87 lazxmw June 6, 2011 at 10:49 pm

Wow. I just bought this video last night, and I must say, “OH DAMN!” This movie was just awesome. I have always been a huge fan of Alex David as Liberty Girl, and this movie did not disappoint. I was worried that with all of the hype on this message board that the video wouldn’t hold up, but I was very wrong about it. The story was mostly well paced, and the peril was tremendously shot, staged, and sold. I only have two minor complaints though. The ending was not only rushed, but to me made no sense. My second minor complaint is that I just think Liberty Girl’s top should’ve come off. I’m not saying anything about nudity, since SHG made films don’t have nudity, and that’s fine, but I just think it would’ve been sexier and flowed a little better with the story for the villian to strip Liberty Girl of her top, revealing a bra or bikini top which she could leave on, but that’s just a very minor complaint. All in all, an amazing video, and I can’t wait for the next installment.

88 bpd June 6, 2011 at 11:20 pm

@(Not so) Disappointed – “What man doesn’t think his dick brainwashes women…” So far… my favorite quote.

89 Charles June 7, 2011 at 2:49 am

Similar to what saxman314 said.. I too don’t care much about the technical aspect compared to the actual content. Hence is also the reason why I find crimson hawk ep3-4 one of the best because it had very little of that “crap” in the beginning but got straight into the peril stuff with actresses that could actually pull it up. To each his own but I’m not sure if there were any other videos that Alex B made so far that made a “comeback” due to popular demands.. jus’ saying.

90 Erik June 7, 2011 at 9:18 am

Will SHG be producing any more Relic Raider videos, especially now that Stacey Lynn has apparently returned? I’d love to see more peril out of her.

91 deathcake June 7, 2011 at 10:35 am

It’s all about opinions.

Rufus said:
“I’m not sure where all the talk about THE GREATEST SUPERHEROINE MOVIE is coming from. It’s either the fans having too low of expectations for a movie or the producers are overhyping their product for the sake of sales. I saw it and although it was good it was far from great. It ain’t the best like everyone says.”

The talk is coming from the people who saw and that it was. Likewise, your opinion is different. We all have our opinions, and we are all right about them :) Forget the technical aspects, about the gradiented black colours being upped or what not. That doesn’t matter to some folks, like myself. The fantasy was upheld for me, and that’s one of the most important aspects. When actors/actresses start looking at the camera and smiling when they should be in pain, it’s over :)

I tell you what bpd, you certainly have started some discussion!

92 V June 7, 2011 at 4:21 pm

Erik,
we’d love to shoot more with Stacie Lynn, but I don’t think it’ll happen. We can try to talk her into it, but I wouldn’t get my hopes up.

93 decendingskulls June 7, 2011 at 9:20 pm

@ bpd: ah that explains a lot, thank you. Sorry that I did not do my research before mistakenly characterizing you as the creators of the prior Liberty Girl videos. It was late and I was tired but I was so eager to contribute my thoughts so I rushed into the comments.

@ saxman: my thoughts EXACTLY. In my opinion, the fetish-centric videos detract from the flow of the action. It’s like the ideal video is a journey from point A (the cocky triumphant superheroine) to point B (the failure and domination of said heroine) with good points all along the path, whereas the fetish stuff is like “hey let’s take a detour way off to the side because we got distracted and we probably won’t get back on track sorry”. It’s always a sadly sobering moment for me. Well that’s how i feel anyway. And I totally agree about the GIGA videos too. Yes they are impressive and offer things few producers can compete with (their sets alone are staggering), but other than that they are usually more gross than sexy so I have little interest.

@ Rufus and other haters: No one is hyping this for an ulterior motive. bpd is the only one commenting who would have something to gain from doing that and he’s been nothing but completely humbled by the popularity. I personally have been watching and collecting superheroine videos like this one since 2004 and by now I have seen almost everything made to date (no lie, i have a serious addiction!). This video may not be the best at any one thing, but it succeeds exceptionally well on a wider scope of issues than probably any video I have seen, which could very well make it a contender for best ever. I left the movie feeling completely satisfied with it, and I have only said that a handful of times.

@ bpd again: Please don’t feel any pressure from the popularity.
Some of us on here are insatiable little bastards who thank you by asking for MORE but most of us are grateful for even one movie as decent as this. Judging by this movie, you probably couldn’t make a bad movie if you tried. It’s all in fun anyway – this is entertainment after all!

So have fun!

94 darklord June 7, 2011 at 10:22 pm

Rufus – which producer is hyping this up? As far as I know this was only produced by BPD and he’s been nothing but gracious.

@ BPD,- sorry if my comments to Alex made you feel uncomfortable at all, i don’t care if others don’t like what i like, but it did bother me to read another producer (i.e. competitor) give an unfair and jealous review. I can buy the arguments about the lighting (although the lighting didn’t detract anything for me) and the audio, but to say the delivery and acting was “wooden”? lol, that is laughable. The acting (as someone else mentioned) was one of the best parts, if not the best aspect to this film.

Great job and look forward to the next 2 installments. Although to echo a prevoius post, if you plan to have LG win at the end, at least give us down ending fans an alternate ending to watch her languish and be defeated once and for all! :)

95 onetrick June 7, 2011 at 11:47 pm

saxman314 said:
“No peripheral fetish B.S.: “belly-punching,” “debooting,” “foot worship,” “ragdoll/limp-play,” “lift and carry,” “smoking,” “girl-on-girl,” “magic wand,” “sleepy/chloro,” and even exotic (in the regular world) bondage gear are not part of my personal fetish at all. It’s just straight-up superheroine domination and rape that I dig. I like plenty of videos that have some of those other things, but this video is proof that trimming all the superfluous stuff out makes the video MUCH better for me.”

@saxman314 & @decendingskulls: It’s so interesting to me how we all come to the superheroine genre from so many (and sometimes wildly) different angles. Obviously, there’s no right or wrong here, just preferences. But threads like this never cease to intrigue me, as different people describe their ideal video content or describe the things that kill otherwise good videos for them, and there can be such opposites. I can certainly see your point about how the “fetish B.S.” would get in the way for you, if that’s not what brought you here. But I’m on the other side of that, I guess. I actually backed into the superheroine genre, in a way, coming mainly from a focused interest that is included in your list of “fetish B.S.”–my interest isn’t innately superheroine-related, but I discovered long ago that something about the superheroine angle adds a significant boost to my interest. It’s exactly that journey from point A to point B that decendingskulls described that adds the boosting element, but yet, that journey isn’t a standalone interest for me. It’s a context in which to enjoy my particular “fetish B.S.” shtick to a greater degree than most other contexts, but if you take out or leave out my fetish shtick entirely, the straight A to B journey that is the pinnacle for you holds nothing at all for me. So my frustration as a viewer is quite the opposite of yours–I’m routinely disappointed that there isn’t *enough* of at least my particular fetish shtick included in superheroine videos for which the actress may be smoking hot, the costumes killer, the set, lighting, cinematography, and even the acting are all stellar–it’s the perfect vehicle for my interest to work its best magic … but then I get through the whole video and find that either my particular “fetish B.S.” thing was either skipped entirely or reduced to all of 15 seconds of air time in the midst of a laundry list of other fetish elements that also aren’t my thing. It’s really frustrating! lol

With such opposing tastes out there, obviously no producer can please everybody with any one video (the video that is the subject of this very interesting thread, for instance, I must confess I have not seen, because the discussion and preview make clear that it’s not something that would work for me, not because of any of the technical flaws some people have noted–I doubt that stuff would matter to me–but simply because it lacks my “fetish B.S.”). But I sometimes wish these superheroine videos could be made in some sort of modular way, where the viewer could choose whether to import scenes with selected fetish elements or not, but somehow the whole video would still hold together regardless of which mix of fetish elements (or no fetish elements) were selected to stick into the middle of the action. I’m sure that’s pretty far-fetched, but it’s not so different in concept to the idea already floated (and used by some producers) of having alternate ending modules that the viewer can select, and either ending module will fit seamlessly with the story up to that point. There are some adult video games that also proceed this way, with branch points where the viewer gets to select what type of sex action happens next in little modular installments that can all fit together, so the viewer can skip some sex positions entirely while seamlessly repeating others multiple times in a row and can basically interactively design their own ideal sex scene by freely ordering the modules however they like. Would it actually be impossible for a superheroine video producer to do something similar? You would have the basic setup for point A, then have the heroine get into trouble and make the intervening steps of what happens to her on the way to point B be a series of discrete but transposable modules dedicated to different fetish shticks, plus modules that proceed in a more linear way without any fetish B.S., and then conclude with a common point B (or perhaps multiple versions of point B for the alternate ending fans). The pieces could be provided as individual downloadable video segments–the viewer would need to employ a basic video editor to assemble the pieces as desired, but there are plenty of free tools to do that. I don’t know … probably a ridiculous idea for any producer to really bother doing, but sometimes I do wish superheroine videos came in this format, so you as the viewer could include as many or as few detours as you wanted, and ONLY the ones you wanted, on that grand journey from A to B.

Sigh … just dreamin’!

96 Bert June 8, 2011 at 12:27 am

Wow, what a discussion! You gotta love Heroine Movies for providing this space to discuss these films. As for Liberty Girl, I’m really impressed. I’ve loved the actress since the early days of Luna Crush photo sets, and her acting skills are a couple steps above the norm in this genre. I’m a fan of the new costume too, and the longer hair is really hot. I thought the three on one battle at the beginning was fantastic, I enjoyed the multiple sets, and I was surprised by how far Ms. David was willing to go during the last section of the movie. I’m not a big fan of the overtly sexual stuff, but it was well done and a logical way for the story to progress.

There has been an engaging discussion about where this movie fits in with others in terms of quality. My feeling is it belongs near the top. There were some technical issues that were noticeable and a bit annoying, but the focus on story, clever camera angles, good performances by all and a stellar performance by Ms. David put this movie into the top ten percent of anything I’ve seen. I’m so pleased that there will be two more to follow. Now if only SHG would return to doing Liberty Girl photo stories as well!

97 Swampy170 June 8, 2011 at 5:08 am

Wow, quite alot of raw feelings. Chill guys as has been said above there is no ultimate video to please all – has anyone who has bought it been displeased with their purchase by the way?

@onetrick – that’s not out of the question at all. I’ve been considering something alot like that for some time – I was planning to use flash to create a complex set of menu’s that appear between clips though – to save customers having to edit the clips themselves. The problem would be the amount of time to set up and shoot loads of different fetishes, that could be the killer – though with a relatively limited number it wouldn’t be too bad. For lovers of continuity it could be challenging, it would have to be carefully shot.

Definately something that could be tried at some point though.

98 Decendingskulls June 8, 2011 at 8:36 am

Swampy is right. The only reason this discussion ignited like this is because somebody called it the BEST superheroine vid ever. If that claim had never been made, we would not be having this discussion. Clearly with different tastes, there are different ideals. Rather than compare, i prefer to just appreciate things for what they are. There’s enough room on the web for everybody :)

99 Britt June 8, 2011 at 10:00 am

I have been reading everyone’s comments with great interest and much amusement. Everyone (producer or not) is entitled to their own opinion. To attack one another because you disagree with their opinion is not cool, but to have free and open discussions of everyone’s preferences is awesome. That being said, Bravo! to One Trick for posting an interesting dialogue.

I myself am coming at this whole thing differently because I am a girl who fantasizes about being dominated, used, and abused. I always put myself into the position of the heroine and quite often these videos just don’t make it all the way for me. However, that does not mean I can’t find merit in everyone’s videos or be pleased that we have so many excellent producers coming out with videos.

I would in general say thank you to all the people who make an effort to continually provide us with material to feed our fetishes.

xo
Brit

100 lazxmw June 8, 2011 at 10:19 am

@Britt: Preach on sister! Shout it from the mountain tops!
Seriously though, what you said is what every one here should keep in mind. Everyone is entitled to their own opinions, and if you don’t like something, then don’t watch or read it. Although SHG Films and bpd must be loving all of the discussion and passion this is generating.

101 uhzoomzip June 8, 2011 at 11:16 am

@ darklord”Although to echo a prevoius post, if you plan to have LG win at the end, at least give us down ending fans an alternate ending to watch her languish and be defeated once and for all! :)”

Here is an echo of this echo. Need not be anything especially morbid, but hopeless heroines = happy endings.

Interesting discussion all around and really the only contributor who I can say is truly off the mark is the guy calling the model unattractive. She’s a bombshell.

102 Lady Jane June 8, 2011 at 11:29 am

As another girl who imagines being put in the place of the heroine I’m with Britt on this one! Go’head girl! I think we need everyone producing every style of video that’s out there to service this somewhat unique crowd.

Although I think it’s note worthy that no one seems to be attacking on this thread as much as some seem to be taking offense to otherwise benign of opinion. Overly defensive much? It’s ok boys open dialogue is good for everyone…

Thanks to all the producers!

103 sugarcoater June 8, 2011 at 1:08 pm

What about this model as the next (or another) LG character? She is the one who played “Trinity” at The Battle for Earth.

104 uhzoomzip June 9, 2011 at 7:12 pm

Very nice video–a nice addition to the variety already available. It has its own unique style. I, for one, have never really seemed to gravitate towards films that make an effort to establish the strength and ability of the heroine before tearing her down, so this was a satisfying change of pace. The action sequences were well-done and never dull. I’ve tried stuff like TBFE and it’s just not for me, but somehow the action here was extremely gratifying. Seeing the heroine initially succeed made her downfall and subsequent taking that much more satisfying. I also don’t know what it is about this actress that gets me going–objectively she’s not the most gorgeous model who’s done these sorts of videos, but her performance was just really convincing and something about her esprit made me feel a high level of ardor towards her…she might be my new favorite.

I don’t know if I can weigh in on what’s been discussed above other than to say it’s another welcome contribution to material catering to my fixation, and variety is the spice of life.

Bonus easter egg for diligent viewers – areolae/nipples around 18:58-59 and 19:33-34 in the AOH scene.

105 uhzoomzip June 9, 2011 at 7:14 pm

Also as a goofy throwback, the future episodes should feature “Dr. Vaughn.”

106 yak June 14, 2011 at 10:27 pm

circumstances prevent me from purchasing this vid for at least another two weeks, and the wait is KILLING me… i’ve wished for a fifth liberty video for years… this one looks like it’s got everything i want… which is to say, it’s a superheroine video, not just a girls-in-spandex-in-peril show, starring the greatest actress this genre’s ever known

107 Bert June 15, 2011 at 12:36 am

Yak,
Don’t die. You do not want to miss this video!

108 yak June 29, 2011 at 5:15 pm

I got it, and it’s real good. But I’m a touch disappointed. Course, my expectations were sky high. When a new Liberty video was announced, I was excited. When Alex David was given the lead role in that video, I was bouncing around the room. And when I saw the trailer a couple of weeks ago, and couldn’t buy the video immediately, well… as I said before, I almost died. In other words, I was primed for the greatest superheroine adventure ever. Sadly, this video is not that video. In fact, I prefer the first Liberty Girl, with all its little imperfections, much more. Before I explain why, let me repeat: this one is real good. It’s sexy and fun and clever. Alex is, as expected, excellent, and the villain she fights is decent enough to not be a total distraction. Technically speaking, the video easily surpasses the rest of series, with few acting or directing gaffes to speak of. My issues concern the plot. Now, when I say plot, I’m not thinking Shakespeare. I don’t ask for much character development or nuance or whatever in these videos. However, I do like a little bit of… conflict… a bit of tension. I like when heroines act like heroines, and I like when the perils they confront treat them like heroines. Heroines can be naive or careless or cocky (and I love a video that draws these characteristics out thoroughly), but they shouldn’t fall victim to a single thug with chloroform. I want a struggle, dammit. There’s no fun in a video where a superheroine isn’t respected enough by the director to avoid a kick to the groin or an obvious trap. Liberty- The Return does not have this element of “respect.” The only time when Alex holds her own in a fight is when, weirdly enough, she is out of costume. Not coincidentally, this fight is my favorite part of the video. In it, there’s a few great double-teams, a solid bearhug, some well choreographed punches, and a bit of uncertainty about who will prevail. Compare this to the fight with Obsidian in the bedroom. Here, Liberty Girl almost never has an edge. And though I love the knockout on the stairs, I wonder how a superheroine, even one caught off guard, could possibly find herself in that position so quickly. I mean, she’s only facing one guy with a stupid laser. It just doesn’t check out. The scenes in Obsidian’s lair are hit and miss as well. I love when Liberty is strung up by her own lasso and punched… I wish it were even a little longer. But why is she so worn out? It’s not like she’s missing her magic belt. She practically serves herself up for rape toward the end of the video. Again, there’s no… tension… no kick-back. (And no dialogue! Where are all the sassy superheroine lines? Where are all the evil villain retorts?) In the first Liberty Girl video, our heroine was subdued only after 1. A long fight in which she was outnumbered; 2. A surprise chloroform attack; 3. A torture sequence in which the villains deduce her source of power through trial-and-error. To me, that’s how you do it. You present the heroine with a “realistic” struggle that lasts for a long time and gives the villains a chance to de-power her. Somehow, I don’t think fondling and a few punches are enough to take down Liberty Girl. So yeah, that’s it. My rant (doctoral thesis?) probably sounds totally ridiculous, and I’m probably over-reacting a little bit. This is a good video. I didn’t mention some of the other things I really liked (when Alex is pulled off the bed; the new costume is superb; the shot of Liberty laid out on the mat). Get this one. But also, if you can, get the 1st, 2nd, and 4th vids in the series. They don’t have the technical chops of this one… but they’ve got STRUGGLE.

109 lazxmw July 1, 2011 at 1:18 pm

@yak: You made some good points, and I mostly agree with your statements, for I was also bothered by the same things, although I still enjoyed the hell out of the movie and still think it’s the best video done by SHG films.
@ Britt: as a side comment, I’m surprised how well behaved this board is. Most boards I read ,if a lady says she fantasizes about being dominated, then a thousand dudes jump out of the woodwork and just flood the board with crap. However I’m just curious about what you find appealing about it, if you don’t mind my asking?

110 Britt July 1, 2011 at 1:47 pm

@ Lady Jane
Yay! So glad to see some lady friends to join in the cause!

@Lazxmw

This board is well-behaved. We are all friends here and HM encourages us not to be douches.

Of course you can ask, HM and I have had long discussions on my twisted psyche and as far as we have been able to surmise, it comes down to control. As a child, I had no control over my crazy, chaotic life, no structure. So now I currently exercise extreme control in my daily life, some would even call me rigid. I don’t ever lose control, so in this fetish, the control is taken from me. Its like a huge burden being lifted, so that I no longer have to be responsible for myself or the things happening to me and I can enjoy it. Especially since, a lot of the things I want done are not “mainstream”. So it takes away the guilt of liking to be spanked or choked.

111 lazxmw July 1, 2011 at 2:58 pm

@Britt
Wow. I can’t begin to tell you how refreshing and open that answer was. I live in a situation of silence when it comes to these topics. I had the same kind of childhood you seemed to have, yet I want to be in control. I do wonder what form you want your fetish to take? I don’t always find a seemingly kindred spirit.

112 Britt July 1, 2011 at 3:49 pm

@Lazxmw

I’m glad you think so. I have noticed it really depends on your gender, as to how a person reacts to a chaotic childhood. Men who are products of this kind of chaotic childhood tend to crave the control and often as adults, they don’t master control over their life. I know many men like that. But sexually, they are completely dominant.

My fetishes take many forms, most of which I’m not comfortable sharing here. But I will have HM give you my email address.

You do seem to be a member of the race of Joseph.

xoxo
Britt

113 bpd July 1, 2011 at 9:44 pm

I’m curious what the ladies think of the video and what could be done better. They never really commented on that. Color me curious.

114 Lady Jane July 3, 2011 at 4:06 am

@bpd -I like the video quite a bit. I thought the pacing was the best part technically. I loved the outfit too. And is it just me or is Alex David just too gorgeous for words?

I’d have a hard time saying what could be done better because it all was done great! But what I would’ve liked to see was LG humiliated a little more in the form of a gloating villain…While she’s tied and helpless being told how inferior she is or just generally taunted while she can’t do anything about it. And possibly I’d like to see her broken down a little further, maybe even to a point where she’s begging.

I can’t speak for Britt, but for me its a little more about getting caught up in the process. I loved Rye’s Divinity because so much emphasis was put on the heroine’s being broken, slowly realizing she was was out classed and gradually becoming more and more helpless… now if that video had had an ending like yours it would have been the perfect video! But I can put myself more into the heroine that way and feel myself becoming more and more helpless…LG the Return was just a little dry to my because she stayed fairly strong even when she was being beaten up.

I did however love the end! Best molestation/rape scene I’ve seen! Keep that up! Hope that is what you are looking for, you’re welcome to email me if you need more feedback… or just post it here again lol.

115 chandelier September 1, 2011 at 6:41 pm

just beautiful, its dark, it draws you in, it builds, i think the secret is that it never became explicit porn, i recommend everyone to buy it, and if anyone can recommend something else as good / similar then please post below, thanks.

116 bpd October 21, 2011 at 9:01 pm

Fans,

I just finished the script to LG2. I believe we start production in November. I’m just curious what the fans would like to see in the sequel. I can’t promise that it will make it into the film but if it fits with my story I can try my best to include it into the film.

-bpd

117 lazxmw October 26, 2011 at 9:53 pm

@ bpd
I would personally like to see a whipping, some two on one beating with belly punching, and face slapping, Liberty Girl stripped out of her costume to just a bra and panties, and another rape scene, only this time have her not enjoy it at the end.

118 bpd November 5, 2011 at 5:40 am

@lazxmw
Most of what you want will be in the film. However, the whipping… sorry to say… not this time. I do realize this is something the fans really want. I also notice that it’s something that hasn’t been done really well. It’s something I’m hopping to get in a future film but I want to make sure I nail it. It needs to look real or Its not going to work. Thank you for your input.

119 Lake November 5, 2011 at 6:39 am

@bpd

I’d defintely like to see more face slapping. I think there’s more humiliation tied to a superheroine having her face slapped than there is her being punched. By slapping her, the villain is saying she is easy to take down and giving her no respect.

120 ximi November 5, 2011 at 8:44 am

@bpd: I also like more 2on1 or 3on1 fighting and beating. Have the heroine fight back while constrained was great in the previous one, like to see more. Raping doesnot need to be long or “real”, but I prefer her tied or handcuffed through it – and yes, resisting through it.

121 Decendingskulls November 5, 2011 at 9:10 am

@ bpd,

How about (for Liberty Girl) internal monologue / reactions,
That could be dubbed over the audio in post-production?

This is a staple in the comic book industry.
Often in comics, the vast majority of the writing concerns internal monologue.
I think it’s a very effective tool in movies as well, capable of conveying things that otherwise might go unseen.

122 yak November 7, 2011 at 3:16 pm

bpd:
- 2 on 1 or 3 on 1 is a must… keep the slaps and belly punches to a minimum though… those things are way overdone… holds and hugs are much better
- i’d like to see a de-belting/de-powerment
- a bit o bondage?
- no rape, please. just never seems right in a superheroine video

123 lazxmw November 7, 2011 at 6:31 pm

I have to respectfully disagree with yak a little bit. I personally can’t stand when heroines are bearhugged, I prefer them being slapped and punched, and rape belongs in heroine movies, because it’s the ultimate act of victory for the villains, and it’s a defeat the over confident heroine can never recover from. But that’s just my personal opinion, and what I enjoy to watch in a video.

124 fabio November 7, 2011 at 8:01 pm

Keep the low blows. the heroine did great with the reactions and im sure they would only improve on part 2. And I like belly punches. Id like to see the heroine sustain an ab injury or some cracked ribs or aching crotch, Which would just turn in to a weak spot for the villains to attack, and pain that would stay with LG throughout the video. I just dont like it when she takes so many hits in a certain area and 10 secs later shes normal and doesnt look hurt or worn out.

125 John November 8, 2011 at 11:56 am

bpd,

Please, I’d like to ask for a bearhug sequence. I’d love to see a moment where the heroine is bearhugged repeatedly times. Most of all, in a reverse bearhug!

I vote for a movie without too much violence. Most of all, without sex violence.

Finally, Make her a winner at the end of the story.

Thank you!

126 thefab4 November 8, 2011 at 2:49 pm

having the fight on a staircase was a great idea as it allowed you to shoot from above and below which made it much more dynamic than other fight sequences

please an initially dominant heroine in a back and forth fight where she is incrementally weakened till unconscious and carried. 

please no rape scene, I don’t want that shit on my computer even if they are just acting. that (along with his trainers) was the only thing wrong with The Return ,  instead of the R scene  the bad guy / girl needs a dastardly vibrating contraption (see jim weathers) put a hitachi wand into a tube and make it look like some kryptonite sceptre . again incremental weakening until surrender. but generally The Return was so good you could just re shoot it every month with a different girl and people would buy! 

my tuppenceworth….

127 TheLecher November 8, 2011 at 3:45 pm

Here’s another vote in favor of the rape sequences. That’s the best part of the feature. Good stuff.

128 Bert November 8, 2011 at 4:18 pm

Hey bpd, looks like your path is clear. When faced with a bunch of mutually exclusive suggestions, go with your gut! “The Return” was so good that I trust you’ll make most of us very happy with the next one.

129 Decendingskulls November 8, 2011 at 8:58 pm

To be perfectly honest, my least favorite aspect of ‘The Return’ was that the heroine was victorious. I like dark endings, personally. I’ve come to accept the happy endings because they are inescapably prevalent. But if i had my way, all heroine defeats would be final and permenant. Just my two cents. Also i vote yay on heroine rape, naturally, with all due respect to those offended by it.

130 ximi November 8, 2011 at 9:56 pm

I too vote yes for rape scene, but I like a “happy ending”. If nothing else, makes it easier to get a next episode :-))

131 Fabio November 8, 2011 at 10:17 pm

No on rape scene k bye.

132 jonh November 9, 2011 at 12:46 pm

One more think:

I believe would be nice for the actress to use some “TRANSPARENT PANTYHOSE” . It’s beautiful and would be more comfortable for the actress.

133 Renegade November 9, 2011 at 12:53 pm

yay on heroine rape.. please no rape scene.. yes for rape.. no on rape.. DUCK SEASON! .. WABBIT SEASON!!

(Heh. No offense to the commenters intended.)

Sounds to me like the audience as a whole is calling for alternate endings. Or at least producers might want to look into spending an extra half hour while shooting to get an additional scene on camera – so they could put out two versions. I remember that being a feature on SHC, the alternate “extreme” endings.

134 Lake November 9, 2011 at 1:38 pm

No bear hugs please I really don’t see the point of them!

135 Decendingskulls November 9, 2011 at 8:49 pm

@ Renegade:

The alternate endings was (in my opinion) a GREAT feature of the SHC videos and something that no other producer in the genre has experimented with, to the best of my memory.

@ ximi:

Since this is a fantasy genre, characters can easily be brought back to life if killed.
The easiest example is when the writer simply states that the heroine survived by some miracle even though she was assumed to be dead / defeated. Or you could use magic. Or it could be an alternate dimension. There are many writing possibilities in fantasy for continuing the story of a character who has met a bad end.

136 lazxmw February 4, 2012 at 4:34 pm

@bpd
Hello sir, I was just curious on if there has been any new developments with Liberty Girl 2?

137 bpd February 4, 2012 at 11:19 pm

@lazxmw
I’m in post with it at the moment and it’s coming together. I do have a small ending sequence to shoot still. No promises but it should be ready sometime this month. I’ve just been busy with other projects and life. Anyway, it’s coming! =)

138 Bert February 5, 2012 at 12:02 am

That is very good news.

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