“X Club Wrestling Episode 6″ from Pro Style Fantasies

PSF XCW 3 175x131 X Club Wrestling Episode 6 from Pro Style FantasiesWow… what can I say?  I loved everything about this video and think it’s the best of the X Club Wrestling series so far (which is really saying something since I’ve enjoyed all of them).  Episode 6 features a tag team match between The Rockets—a spunky team consisting of Francesca Le and Ela Darling—and the aptly named Team Evil, played by Paris Kennedy and Annie Cruz.  The whole video is just so entertaining from start to finish that I recommend it for any fan of fantasy wrestling and can pretty much guarantee that you won’t be disappointed. 

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The match begins, with Team Evil making an incredibly dramatic entrance with the two members kissing and making out prior to the match.  The Rockets take advantage of this distraction by attacking Team Evil just before the bell rings.  They work together as a team to wallop Team Evil and dominate the early stage of the fight.

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And yet for some reason, there’s a sinking feeling that things are about to take a turn for the worse for The Rockets.  And indeed they do.  Once the tables turn, they turn all the way.  The Rockets experience just about every possible form of physical punishment and humiliation imaginable.  For about 20 minutes, The Rockets are beaten, tied up, punched, kicked, hit, and sexually abused with a strap-on.

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Like I said, I really enjoyed this video.  In addition to the wild fantasy wrestling action, there are a lot of little details that make it a lot of fun.  From Wolf Hudson’s brief appearance, to Team Evil’s hilarious reaction to a surprising plot twist, to Annie Cruz’s extremely slow entrance after being tagged at a pivotal moment, to Rifferus’ brief but awesomely hammy performance, there are several moments that really made me laugh.  It’s a really fun video that all fans of fantasy wrestling should enjoy.

Buy X Club Wrestling – Episode 6 from Pro Style Fantasies

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  1. Dont bother with this unless you are really into fantasy. Its hard to decide which was more fake, the cheesy and very poorly executed “wrestling” moves, the poorl acted faked orgasms or the fake use of strap ons. Why this company would makes such a big deal and bold face STRAP ON when its clear from several angles one is not even being used is beyond me. Pulling one out and then faking using it is pointless IMO. These girls are porn actresses, why not have them actually use the strap on? More fluff and fake material to add to all the others already online.

  2. And just in case anyone missed this in the other thread, this person pretending to be “Eric” is actually Mike Bell, a producer of a competitor website. He was one of the first people to purchase the video, and immediately came on this site to trash it. He is only pretending to be a fan. Harry has the IP address on file which proves that “Eric” is indeed Mike Bell, who also uses a number of other fake names here and elsewhere to trash his competitors’ sites

    So I simply ask everyone to take anything “Eric” says with a grain of salt. :)

    I think the free samples on the site should give everyone an accurate and honest representation of what the video is like! Thanks!

    Oh, and I’ll put my videos up against Mike Bell’s any day of the week. :)

  3. Haha, that’s so sad… what is this site that Mike Bell owns? I’d like to go and check it out haha

  4. Trystan

    Go fuck a goat, “Eric”.

    About Episode 6, thats great!! Paris Kennedy is awesome, and hot as always. So is Ela Darling, what a nice surprise!!

  5. Just bought this one and *loved* it. As usual, the quality is getting better. Diana Knight, Paris (especially Paris!), and Annie Cruz all make excellent heels. Annie’s performance improved considerably over her last appearance. Francesca Le jobs like a pro. Ela Darling, not so much.

    I don’t know whether someone is Eric is a sock puppet or not, but either way, I suppose in the interest of fully informing potential customers, yes, these videos are indeed fantasy. Maybe the title including “fantasies” in it is hint?

    For me, that isn’t a bug, it is a feature. The cheezy stunts, etc. add to the fun. The fact that story-lines and characters are developing also makes it more fun.

    Now if you can just get someone really hot to be an in-ring ref….

    Some other company, I forget which one, made a line of wrestling videos in which the ref would “verify” that each wrestler did not have any foreign objects hidden away in their suits before each match. Those pat downs were, shall we say, very thorough. I’d love to see something like that arrive at the X Club.

  6. Some duche waffle tried doing this to one of my vids a while back but they weren’t nearly this bold and foolish.

  7. A lot of what your running your mouth about is actually why these vids are so popular… Anyone who grew up getting hot and bothered watching GLOW, WOW, WWE divas (which is a lot of damn people) are going to eat up Fantasy style wrestling vids. Trying to flame these vids for being fantasy makes as much sense as telling a superheroine fan to stay away from superheroine vids because they are fake…
    I bought a couple X club vids and they reminded me of an adult version of “All the Marbles” which is my fav wrestling movie of all time. The only thing All the Marbles was missing was music and forced orgasms, both of which were in each video I watched at X Club.

    The only thing Alex should consider for the next vid is letting me write the music, hehe.

  8. Thank you Alex for this fantastic vid. This is maybe one of your best ones. I hope to see more of Team Rocket being destroyed soon. Maybe with new team members? (Francesca was great but the Rocket team could be a big team ;-)) What about Cali and Akira?

    But please with the same team uniforms. These shining orange outfit and the silver boots are so sexy! Go on with your fantastic work. You make dreams coming true!

  9. I am sad becasue I want another Alex Bettinger produced super heroine film. I miss those. :(

    Seriously though, these wrestling videos look pretty cool. I remember watching WWE Divas and l oving every minute of it. My favortie would have to be Debra back in 1999 when she would alwasy get her dressed ripped off, lol.

  10. It was awasome to watch Kymberly’s humiliations in double dose.
    Poor Missy Lee and Chrissy Jennings (hmmm, interesting names :)) got it.
    Anyway, I think it’s time for a big heel humiliation, when the heel get every hit and finally lies unconsciously, beaten, bloody and humiliated. After the big tag team match for the title, of course.
    What do you think?

  11. Glad y’all seem to like the new episode! Was our first tag team match, so I’m pleased it went over well! We’lll definitely be doing more tag matches in the future.

    Charlie Laine was sick which was why she wasn’t the other girl on the Rockets–but perhaps we can make her one of Femme Fatales (the tag champs). Who should her partner be? Perhaps DIa would be perfect…

    Brax: Yes, I think at this point I am definitely leaning towards a ref–or at least trying one out for a match and see how it affects production, sales, etc. DWOW and WEW used to have this HOT ref in super tight booty shorts…definitely worked. And the before-match frisking–a must.

    David: Yeah, I could see us making the Rockets more of a faction than a tag team. Team Evil just might be joining forces with the Marquise after all… Cali and Akira would be a great team. Two little spunky faces :)

    Josh: I dig Kelly too, she’ll be back! She’s still stinging from her humiliation at the hands of Nina Kwan…

    Jose: Don’t worry, more superheroine stuff coming soon! We are still in the middle of a system upgrade (HD coming soon), but as soon as that is done we have two big superheroine features to shoot, and one small one. Some new faces, some new concepts. Stay tuned for that! Oh, and Debra’s dress getting ripped off was memorable for me too. Soon we’ll introduce the sexy owner of the XCW, probably played by Christina Carter. She’ll wear normal clothes–dresses, business suits–and I’m sure they’ll get ripped off her from time to time, heh heh…

    Fan: Double dose! Yeah, I think a heel beatdown is in order. I was actually going to shoot Nina Kwan vs. The Marquise, but Nicole couldn’t do it that day. Who would you want to see in the heel beatdown match? And would you want the heel beaten by the good girls or another heel?

    JJJ: I really dig Goldie, and have always wanted to work with her! We’ll bring her in soon. Actually, with her most impressive rack, and Kelly Divine’s great ass, that might be a cool tag team right there. We could call ‘em TnA or something, lol…

    We are also going to try a match with commentary soon–or at least with an option to watch it with commentary. We’ll see how that goes…

  12. Exactly–the example I usually use is Rocky. I mean, sure, it’s fake, that’s NOT what a real boxing match looks like, the technique is terrible…but if that’s what you’re thinking while watching the Itallian Stallion rally against Apollo Creed or Clubber Lang then you are just missing out on all the fun…

  13. The Rockets are just perfect in this way. I think Francesca Le and Ela Darling make a strong team, they have a lot of potential.

    Femme Fatales: Charlie Lane is obvious, and her partner can be Dia Zerva, but I vote for Sarah Blake, if she will be available. Or maybe Charlotte Kelly?

    I think Cali should team up with Kymberly, they could be a strong couple. GI Jewell and The California Girl are friends anyway. And I think you should put together a heel and a face, by name Nicole and Mina/Kelly. It could end up in a great tag team fight with the Marquise’s band, I think Diana still angry on Nina, since she lost her title because of her.

    Team Evil + The Marquise is a good idea too, and a very strong heel combination. Maybe too strong. There could be a heel vs heel match, when finally a heel gets all humiliation. Or maybe two heels! What about another heel team, Diana + Emily Addison, against the Team Evil. They worked together well when they beat GI Jewell. It can’t end on other way, than an incredible double heel humiliation.

  14. Oh, I almost forgot:
    Christina Carter as the sexy owner of the XCW, wearing dress and business suit is an awasome idea. She could get involved in the ring herself, like Rifferius, but in the faces’ side. This can result incredible fight scenes.

  15. DianaKnightMustLose

    @Alex,

    I know I sound like a broken record here, but I vote for Diana Knight to be on the losing end of a Heel vs. Heel match.

  16. thats freakin awesome alex hopefully she can get revenge on her but still love the new episode if u can u should do a stinkface match or something between 2 girl i mean its hott lol and i know almost every dude loves that theres only been 1 between 2 girls and that was over 10 years ago but it was nice but thats up 2 u dude just making a suggestion :) keep it up hope 2 c kelly again soon

  17. Ya Rocky is a good example as well. Rocky always had good sound effects which is something else I liked about the x club vids I have.
    I knew if you were making these then I would get to enjoy appropriate sound effects. There are so many wrestling vids I have from other sites that don’t use effects in their fight scenes and it drives me NUTS!

  18. I want to see Roxy Blade in a heel beatdown. In my point of view Paris is the best for this job. She should be beaten down by another heel maybe the Marquise.

  19. CaptainCrude

    Hey Alex,

    I think it would be awesome it see the Rockets in the future hire Kelly as a bodyguard after that beat down Diana gave to them.

    Maybe a twist where her and Diana are really working together ;)

    It’s a fun idea.

  20. Alex, can you share us some of your plans for the future episodes?
    Will you use some of our suggestions?

  21. Hey everyone–looks like the next match we shoot will be the Marquise teaming up again with Emily the Assassin to face Jenny Jewell and Cali the California Girl!

    I think Cali might not fare so well in this one!

  22. And here is just a *tiny* tease of the little superheroine video we shot today with the incredibly hot Lux Kassidy. Our last Superheroine video of the year before we start in on our full length, X Rated superheroine features! This one should be out next week!

    http://plixi.com/p/64911566

  23. I have never heard about her but she is really attractive.
    I am curious which superheroine she is.

  24. Gorlocke

    Alex, your vids are a dream come true (you must hear that a lot). Ela seems like she just lacks for practice and a sense for how to act out the right details to make a fantasy wrestling video legitimate– she does have talent. I’ve never seen Francesca look so good. I realize this might seem kind of tame given the ground you are breaking, but any chance of adding some kissing (mouth to mouth)? I’ve always felt this was a superior method of asserting dominance over an opponent who was being defeated, and does not have to be overdone to be hot. Thanks!

  25. CaptainCrude

    The mouth to mouth idea is great, it would make a nice submission hold as well if one girl plugged the others nose

  26. I love the kissing idea–would be perfect in the tag match on the 9th. Cali could be all helpless and punchdrunk, and the Marquise torment Jenny Jewell by making out with Cali right in front of Jenny, who can’t quite reach to make the tag….

    In the superheroine video, no, no dark hawk–Lux battles a character played by Stacy Burke. It’s a fun little video, and we were very happy with Lux’s performance. We might very well cast her in our first feature that we’ll shoot in January.

    Stay tuned!

  27. Michael

    Sorry I missed your post HT but I own kickassgirlz.com and knockoutgirlz.com I wasnt saying Alex’s videos were crap, I was just saying not to advertise and make a big deal about strap ons being used when they clearly were not. I also have an issue calling it “pro styled” when its completely faked with girls landing on crash pads and cut scenes to try and make it look real. Have a look at my video, THIS is real pro styled wrestling. No crash pads and phony bullshit, the wrestlers in my video preform actual wrestling holds and moves the correct way and take real bumps :)

    http://vimeo.com/18192281

  28. Like I said, I’ll put my videos up against Mike’s any day of the week. :)

    The fans can decide for themselves. Unlike Mike, I’m not going to pretend to be a fan and trash his work.

    A

  29. Michael

    No need to put our videos against one another, they are clearly for different fans. Yours are for porn fans who dont care about terribly fake “wrestling” while mine are for actual wrestling/fight fans :) My Kickass Girlz site is more for the fetish/porn crowd.

  30. I will put my wrestling action against yours any day of the week. I’ve seen what you call “real” wrestling on your site–that video highlighting the best you can do. I’m not impressed. I like the wrestling in my videos better. And I’m a wrestling fan.

    As it happens, your product is the same ol thing you can find on at least a hundred other sites. Double Trouble, Ring Divas, Steel Kittens, etc. Your stuff is just more of the same (and Ring Divas does it way better). MY stuff is much more unique–you would be hard pressed to find cinematic wrestling videos like mine anywhere else, other than at Giga Freeks.

    I have chunks of my videos online for free–so you can really see what my videos look like. Why not put up some scenes from your videos–so we can really see this incredible real wrestling action you have. Not just carefully selected snippits–put up like 2 straight minutes from your best video. We’ll see if it’s so incredibly exciting. :) I’m honestly curious to see what this incredible and “real” action is like.

    Here is mine: http://tinyurl.com/rocketstease

    I’m waiting for you to blow us all away

  31. Michael

    LOL what? Ring Divas “wrestlers” dont even take bumps, I have yet to see a power move in any of their videos, its fluff. DT and SK also use porn stars as wrestlers. As I said, the simple fact that you have your porn stars landing on crash pads while you edit cut scenes of fake bumps is enough proof your wrestling is fake. While you work with porn stars like Paris, Emily, Diana etc…I am working with WWE/TNA/ECW/Shimmer WRESTLERS like Christie Ricci, Lizzy Valentine, Becky Bayless, Rain etc…So saying your wrestling action is on par with mine is a joke. I will appease you and post a good a 2 minute clip in a bit :)

  32. Michael

    Here ya go Alex. Kharma (Jennifer Thomas) vs Valentina (Lizzy Valentine) I put some technical wrestling at the beginning, some of the power wrestling in the middle and some wrestling holds at the end to cover it all :) This 2 minute clip has more wrestling talent and technique than anything I have seen from your videos combined. No phony crash pads with cut scenes or bullshit sound effects needed. These WRESTLERS actually take pro styled bumps and are really making contact with each other. Thanks for playing :) Oh, I would LOVE to see you post video of a single camera shot of one of your girls taking a slam, suplex or other power move without a cut away as they land on a crash pad. I’ll be waiting :)

    http://vimeo.com/18196151

  33. Here is what I saw :)

    It was the same thing I could have watched at a ton of other sites just as Alex already pointed out… To be totally honest my dick fell asleep watching it and wrestling is my second fav genera of fighting peril. There was nothing that made that video stand out from the dozens of other wrestling productions I’ve seen. The way you had the girls moan during the peril was just awful… They didn’t sound sexy at all unless girls making bowel movement sounds is your thing.

    And the production quality was simply just tough to watch… that was the hardest part to stomach. A single camera angle from someone’s shoulder was fine 5-10 years ago but you gotta step up your game if your going to compete with Alex…

    Oh and BTW, I’ve been informed that YOUR IP address and another alias was also used when flaming on productions I helped SHG-Media with on this board and Hypnotics World…

    It’s so sad it’s funny because when you pretended to be a customer in my thread you also plugged your website.. Are you hard up for customers or something?

    Rye

  34. michael

    Thanks for the feedback Rye. I dont make the girls make any sounds nor do I script everything out so it looks so completely phony and staged with sloppy cut scenes. Just the irish whip scene in Alex’s video was pulled from like 3 different cuts LOL. Those porn stars cant even pull off a coninuous shot for something that simple? Please. I make REAL wrestling videos with REAL wrestlers performing REAL moves. Not porn stars moaning while they feel each other up and rub each others pussys for guys to jerk off to while they pretend to wrestle around for a few minutes. I’ll admit Alex’s videos are produced fairly well, but thats about it. Real wrestling fans would MUCH rather watch what I am shooting rather than some porn smut with slick production and camera angles to cover up for the lack of any wrestling ability whatsoever.

  35. Interesting clips, but I’ll have to agree with Rye on this one..
    also, just the fact that you pretended to be someone else and trashed your competitor’s work is just low. I mean it’s great and all that you are working with all these real professional wrestlers, which one could consider a privilege, so why go about trashing someone else’s through another alias? That’s a really sad way to compete, not just in this industry but anywhere.. now that your potential customers have found out, one would think a smart thing to do is to apologize for doing something so low, yet you on the other hand just “admit your competition has better production but that’s about it”. Enough with all the trash talk and simply step your production game up lol.. that’s how you gain customers, not this way.

    Just my two cents.

  36. Michael

    Thanks for the advice HT but I was a paying customer for those videos and have a right to voice my opinion. I didnt use my real name because I knew exactly what would happen. People would say I just want to trash a competitor which was not my intent. I have bought quite a few videos from Alex’s other sites and was totally satisfied. I really did think this video was pure shit and the false advertising of strap ons being used was low. Dont worry about my sites, we have plenty of members, tons of custom orders and the sites make plenty of money. We dont charge $25-$40 per video as just about every other site does, thats a straight rip off. You get every one of our videos for $30 :)

  37. Just watched your clip, Mike. First, you did exactly what I knew you would do–which is to post only highlights, and not 2 straight minutes. You did that because you KNOW that 2 straight minutes of your videos would be incredibly boring. It lags, it’s slow, your camera work is sadly amateurish (jolting up and down with the slams, only one continuous shot, etc.–show me ONE wrestling show that shoots its matches like that!)

    You seem profoundly confused about one thing: no one has claimed that my product (or the superheroine videos reviewed here) offer “real” wrestling in the sense of girls actually hurting each other, taking real bumps, etc. I would be the first to agree with you that your videos show more “real” wrestling in the sense that you just stand there with your one camera and press record while the girls do all the work. That is, they pretty much just have an actual pro wrestling match while you record it. Honestly, I’m not sure what if anything you actually contribute. But regardless, I don’t do that, and I never claimed to.

    What I claim is that my videos are more entertaining than yours–more exciting, more fun, sexier, etc. This includes the wrestling in my videos–the wrestling in my videos is more entertaining than the slow, lagging, grunting works that you record and then throw on the web.

    You complain that I use a lot of cuts–it’s by design. If you watch a movie or a tv show today, you will notice that cuts are very frequent. It’s just the style of editing that professionals embrace today. You are doing the opposite–you stand there with your one camera and shoot one long continuous shot and hope to get half-decent angles. Sometimes you succeed–mostly you do not.

    So yes, when the Rockets Irish whip Team Evil to the ropes, we use a lot of edits, cuts, etc. I do that on purpose–because it gives the cinematic effect I want. You might not like it–but complaining that that proves that my wrestling is fake and not “real” is like complaining that Sylvester Stallone wasn’t actually punched in the face by Dolph in Rocky 4. It’s just you trying desperately to find something about my work to complain about.

    Finally, you claim that you were a paying customer and therefore can voice your opinion since you weren’t satisfied: bullshit! You posted as Spizer long ago complaining that my videos were all fake. And yet you IMMEDIATELY bought this video the moment it came out, and then posted a negative review immeidately after that. SO, either you KNEW that my videos were cinematic and fake, and bought the new vid anyway (expecting it to be something completely different?)–in which case you are a true moron. OR you bought it for the sole reason of trashing it. In which case you are a douche.

    Moron or douche? I honestly don’t care any longer. The clip you posted proves all my points better than anything I could say–your stuff is slow, boring, unsexy. Mine is fun, action-packed, sexy. The fans can watch them both and decide for themselves.

    I urge everyone to watch and compare!

  38. Michael

    Ok, and of your 2 minutes, where was the wrestling? I saw lame entrances and lesbian kissing bullshit for most of the clip. Then I saw laughable attempts at wrestling anyone with talent could pull off in a ring for 5 minutes, but your porn stars still werent able to carry it. You can call my videos un-original but if you think you are offering something original, you are sadly mistake. There have been countless videos like yours all the way back to the 60s and 70s up to today pitting porn chicks with no talent against each other with lesbian themes all over it. At least companies like Ultimate Surrender and Academy get it right because their wrestling is real and so is the strap on action, unlike your fake videos. Tell you what, you just keep producing your lesbian fantasy porn for the lowlifes online to jerk off to, and you leave the REAL wrestling action to the big boys :)

  39. Yes, in my 3.5 minute clip I had entrances and character development and storylines and music and cool costumes and lesbian kissing. You have NO storylines at all. Um, have you EVER watched a wrestling show? The storylines, character development, rivalries, etc., are 50% of the show. You don’t have any of that.

    Dude, you are NOT in the pro wrestling business. Your videos don’t look ANYTHING like REAL pro wrestling programs. They look like videos made by some jerkoff in his backyard recording girls wrestling because he gets off on it. And what is hysterical is that you have the balls to insult my videos because people jerk off to them?? Do you think ANYONE buys your videos because they are just captivated by the exciting wrestling action? PUHLEASE. The only people who buy your videos do so because they want to jerk off to them. And most of them, I suspect, end up sadly disappointed.

    And yes, sorry to say but your videos are TYPICAL female wrestling. Nothing separates you from the hundred other female wrestling sites that do the exact same thing. And no, you CANNOT point to ANY videos that are like mine–with nudity and sexual themes and cinematic editing, etc. If you could, I would want to know about them because I would most certainly buy them. To my knowledge, only Giga Freeks does it.

    Basically, you are doing boring unoriginal videos that look NOTHING like real wrestling programs, but look like a sad loser recording stuff in his backyard. I am making original sexy fun videos that are entertaining and cinematic. If what you do is “real” wrestling , then yeah, I want NO part of it.

    P.S. The reason we use crash mats for power moves is because I don’t want to risk anyone getting hurt, and because the ring we use has no give to it at all. It is not a pro wrestling ring. If you were to try a power move in OUR ring your girls would be in the hospital. But then, you don’t seem to give a damn about whether your girls are hurt or not. Another reason you’re a douche.

  40. Michael –

    I will have to assume that you don’t have permission from The Prodigy or XL Recordings to use their music in your abortion of a video?

  41. Back to your upcoming tag match with Cali, Jenny, Emily and the Marquise. Do you already have plans what kind of clothes the “good girls” should wear? My favorite would be if Cali and Jenny wear the same clothes and boots. In my point of view it looks much more sexy when the jobber girls wear boots when they´re going down. Hope the other guys here think the same about that.

  42. I agree and disagree in the same time.
    Boots are obvious in a pro-style wrestling match, but I have no problem at all with the loosing of the boots during the match, removed by the enemies. It kinda marks that the enemy has the complete domination at this point.

  43. Hmmmm… As a long customer of alex and rye, and a customer open to almost anytype of entertainment, I’d have to really go with alex and rye. There stuff is just tons more entertaining!!! Have nothing against other sites but these guys really know how to build long time customers!!!! There are also awesome and keeping communitcation With there customers whenever we need something!!

  44. Um, hi! It’s Paris. Thanks for all the nice comments. I never come on these boards, haha, but Alex told me about the argument and it was so funny I couldn’t control myself! LOL

    I’ll just get to the point, and correct some things. Or try and make them clear which everyone has already done but Mike can’t seem to comprehend.

    1. The site is called Prostyle FANTASIES!!!! Alex has NEVER claimed to be running a “real” wrestling site. Ever. We are in the FETISH industry, not in the pro-wrestling business. Alex shoots FANTASY wrestling. Duh!

    2. Yes, Alex does use porn stars. Why? Um, cause porn stars are HOT! That’s why they are porn stars. They are typically hotter than your average every day woman. Duh!

    3. Have you watched a REAL street fight? Real fights are not sexy. This is the FETISH business. This is made to turn people on. Once again. FANTASY.

    4. Yes, we don’t do real fighting. We are not qualified to train pornstars in real wrestling. We care about our models. We don’t want them to really get hurt. There’s no reason for them to really get hurt. This is FANTASY. And I doubt you are qualified to either. And one day you are going to really hurt someone. Oh wait, you already did that to my friend Kymberly Jane!

    Chill out. Stop being a baby. There is NO reason to be jealous and competitive. We all have completely different fanbases. Alex’s fans are NOT going to like your material and vice versa. Any way, no customer is going to want to only shop at one site. They mix it up. Everyone has their own style and niche. Ours is cinematic. Ed’s for example is pantyhose and feet among other things. Etc, etc. I think it’s great. There’s plenty of business for everyone. If your business/sales suck, it’s your own fault, but don’t go bashing Alex’s or Rye’s sites. All it does is make YOU look jealous and like an asshole.

    Just do your own thing and if you are so confident with your product, you shouldn’t be wasting time bashing your competitors.

    Ok, that’s all I have to say. I’m going to go back to important things like Twitter, haha. =P Enjoy your man-talk!

    xoxoxo

    Paris

  45. I bet that was written by Paris because she’s an idiot, points 1, 3, 4 all said the same about this being fantasy. If anything, this shows the slayer paris camp are crybabies who can’t take simple criticism, the guy said they false advertised on the strap on, and now both Alex and Paris are saying “well your site sucks”. Alex should’ve been the bigger person and ignored this person; this is a fan forum, he bought it, he has a right to complain. If it is truly another producer attacking your stuff, let the fans decided if what he has to say has any merit.

  46. Isn’t it nice to know that Paris never comes on these boards? Nice way to let your “fans” know that you could care less about them.

  47. Actually bahar, I receive constructive criticism, suggestion, requests, and outright attacks all the time. I have very thick skin and the negative comments rarely bother me.

    BUT, this was a competitor producer who KNEW that my stuff was all cinematic and fake, and bought this new video the MOMENT it came out for no other reason than to post a negative review of it so as to turn people off to my product. I’m sorry, but that is straight up quintessential douchebaggery at its most pathetic, and yeah, I’m going to call him on it.

    He was the one who began saying “your site sucks”, pretending to be a customer. I simply returned the favor when his pathetic ruse came to light.

    It you had bothered to read this thread, you would have seen that Michael knew exactly what my product was like (he posted as Spizer a long time ago trashing my stuff for being fake). But he bought the new video anyway as soon as it came out–why? Because he’s a douche.

    As for Paris–she is one of the MOST accessible models in the business; she regularly interacts with fans on Facebook and Twitter, etc. She doesn’t do the message board thing–and that somehow means she doesn’t care about her fans? And then you come on her and start calling people idiots…Dude, you clearly have your own personal agenda. Or maybe you’re just another douche. Yeah, definitely a douche.

  48. By the way, Heroinemovies.com is definitely a message board that Paris *would* probably love to participate in–but after bahar’s warm reception, I doubt she would want to now. Nice going dickhead.

  49. Would anyone care to hear my input on this situation? I didn’t think so, but here it is anyway :).

    First of all, I think it’s awesome that Paris Kennedy would take the time to stop by and share her comments with us. I know a lot of models and actresses in the industry intentionally avoid doing that for fear of tarnishing the “illusion,” or for fear of receiving useless negative feedback for no reason, but Paris is welcome here any time. As the creator of this site/board, I’m not the least bit “offended” that she chooses not to participate in message boards, and I don’t see how anyone could take her comments that way.

    About the ongoing Mike Bell vs. Alex Bettinger discussion…

    bahar wrote, “If anything, this shows the slayer paris camp are crybabies who can’t take simple criticism, the guy said they false advertised on the strap on, and now both Alex and Paris are saying “well your site sucks”. Alex should’ve been the bigger person and ignored this person; this is a fan forum, he bought it, he has a right to complain. If it is truly another producer attacking your stuff, let the fans decided if what he has to say has any merit.”

    Here’s why bahar’s criticism is way off base. The comments left by “Eric” were anything but “simple criticism.” Eric is a phony name used by a rival producer to trick potential buyers into avoiding Alex’s video. When confronted with direct evidence of this, “Eric” responded by flat out denying it. This was a blatant lie to readers of this site. Subsequently, when it became basically impossible to continue the illusion, Michael revealed that he was indeed Eric and did post the comments about Alex’s video.

    Now, what baffles me is that anyone is still taking “Eric’s” criticism seriously. “Eric” doesn’t even exist. His “anger” over being disappointed with Alex’s video is every bit as phony as the various pseudonyms he’s used at this site (Eric, Spizer, etc.) That’s why the criticism about “not really using a strap-on” makes no sense whatsoever. Unless certain readers are pathologically incapable of understanding the difference between reality and fantasy, I don’t think criticisms like this should be taken seriously.

    bahar: “If it is truly another producer attacking your stuff, let the fans decided if what he has to say has any merit.”

    It is indeed another producer. There is absolutely no doubt about this whatsoever. Even if the deception involved in posting under a fake name to pretend to be a disappointed fan doesn’t strike you as shady and deceitful, you’re left only with fake criticism that doesn’t make any sense. In any event, the comments left under the name “Eric” are totally useless.

    About the “strap on” argument… again, this really doesn’t require a response since it’s a totally phony piece of criticism that isn’t based on anyone’s actual response to the video. It’s a piece of propaganda created by a rival producer using a fake name. But let’s just say that certain viewers really, honestly did feel disappointed that the video didn’t suddenly take a turn in the direction of hard core pornography (despite the content of all of Alex’s previous videos and the fantasy elements of every other part of this video). In that case, I would imagine that a viewing of “TRON: Legacy” must have resulted in total disappointment since the actors didn’t “really” ride Light Cycles, but only pretended to. Or that Jeff Bridges wasn’t “really” trapped in a computer, even though this is strongly implied by the trailers. I mean, there’s Jeff Bridges, trapped in a computer world, but the producers had the audacity to create a FAKE computer world that doesn’t really exist. This is an outrage!

    Instead, what real viewers of fantasy do is choose to willingly suspend their disbelief to enjoy the story world the artists create, whether it’s a courtroom drama, a science fiction film, or a fantasy fetish video. It’s a simple concept that is easily understood by children. Just not by “Eric.”

    So let’s dispense with the most ridiculous aspect of all of this: that “Eric” was a real customer who was surprised and disappointed in Alex’s video. That simply didn’t happen. Personally, I don’t see how a producer who gets caught doing something like this can leave additional comments and expect them to be taken seriously without apologizing to readers, fans, and potential customers. Not very classy, if you ask me.

  50. Wow, NOW I understand. Obviously, I’m not Eric/Mike Bell/Spizer (H M can confirm) also not the last Mike that recently posted above, yep that makes three Mikes here.

    Alex, sorry you’re having to deal with this when you’re just trying to make some hot movies we all can enjoy. Like the movie at hand Episode 6, the preview looks great, very enticing, and I plan on checking it out on the weekend when I have some free time to really enjoy it.

    Also I’m guessing you missed my last post on the old Episode three thread. I’d really appreciate a reply, thanks.

    http://www.heroinemovies.com/x-club-wrestling-episode-3-pro-style-fantasies/

  51. Michael

    Great, now everyone will think I am Bahar too just because he said negative about the product. My argument about the strap on is this, why not actually USE it? The porn stars in these videos have all taken strap ons for real before on other sites. Hell, Paris and Francesca take real dicks in videos, so whats the problem? Not only is the wrestling completely faked and phony, so is the sex. Nothing but fake jerk off smut, byt keep convincing yourselves is something cinematic and ground breaking LOL.

  52. Yes, Michael, for the last time:

    1. The wrestling in our videos is FAKE. The fighting in almost ALL movies is fake.
    2. We shoot this way because the result is more entertaining than the one-camera, single-continuous-shot that no-talents like yourself produce.
    3. Yes, PEOPLE JERK OFF TO OUR SMUT. They also jerk off to yours. If you think ANYONE is buying your videos because they are captivated by the boring wrestling that you record, you are a fool.
    4. I don’t shoot hardcore sex, never have. Just have never been interested in doing that. If that blows your mind it’s probably because you’re a moron.
    5. If people think you’re bahar, it’s because you ALREADY pretended to be a genuine customer on this board in order to dissuade people from buying my product. You made your big fat bed, so now lie in it.

    I really hope these simple concepts are not too complex for you to grasp. Please try.

  53. WOAH WOAH WOAH…..hold on a second there Alex…

    People JERK OFF to your videos??? But you told me I was going to be a big WWE star being in your movies! I am shocked and appalled! I’m dumping you now!

    =P

  54. Hahaha… Hey michael or whoever is that dude trashing AB. Dude, just let it go man. You really picked the wrong guy to trash talk . AB is by far one of the most respected producers in his type of productions … His site show it, by the look of the comments he get on all his videos, this site shows it. You look like a fooL now!! Honestly, just stop trying to put AB down . It’s not going to work!

  55. I know… its pretty shocking but it’s true. People are indeed wackin it to fight peril videos all over the world.. including myself!

    Update –
    Previously I stated that Michaels video “made my dick fall asleep…” I am sad to announce that my junk fell into a deep coma last night. I underestimated the risks in watching such a video and now I fear that I may have to watch my favorite superheroine videos at least 500 times to repair the damage.

  56. Guys (and Paris, of course), just ignore this Michael guy.
    I don’t know his works and to be honest, I don’t care about them.
    But I know your products Alex, and I’m totally pleased and a big fan of your works.
    It’s clear that this Michael won’t understand your arguments, so don’t bother yourself about him.

    I hope it’s really you, Paris, you can be Michael too. No one is reliable. :)

  57. Michael

    Rye, check out my Kickass Girlz site then. Plenty of fetish and porn shit to spank off to. I dont have over the hill, washed up and out of shape porn stars attempting to wrestle or doing fake porn. I only work with hot 18-24 year old fresh faces with amazing bodies. If your package doesnt respond to that, see a doctor :)

  58. Did you really just call the models on my site out of shape?? Aren’t you the 400-pound blubbery pig that can be seen in several of your videos? I find that funny.

    And I think ALOT of the girls on my site are girls that you have either recently hired or else tried to hire (but couldn’t come up with the money to pay their rate–you must be doing SO well, ha ha ha ha).

    But at any rate, I’m sure that all the girls who appear on my site (like Nicole Oring, Cali Logan, Emily Addison, Francesca Le, Paris Kennedy, et al) will be interested to know what you think of them. And I’m sure they will be happy to tell all their model friends what you’ve said about them too. I’ll send them all a link to your post. :)

    Keep burning those bridges, fat boy.

    A

  59. Hey Alex, don´t talk to much with those fools. Produce videos so that we can buy, buy, buy them ;-)

  60. Sugarcoater

    Even if I did not look into any of the aforementioned websites, just by reading the posts and seeing the vast difference between Alex’s more refined and educated responses and Michael’s vapid and simplistic responses, I posts, I would have to side with Alex. He makes clear, logical points and supports his arguments with evidence. Michael’s argument seem immature based on his knee-jerk reaction and the lack of any depth to his points. His last post sounds like some high school drop out who still thinks he has some sort of cool factor working for him. Of course, this is a boy who is limited to cursing to emphasize his points and spells “Girlz” with a z to seem trendy.
    That stated, the string of posts has been amusing to read.

  61. Michael

    Did you just call Alex’s posts clear and logical? LOL. Just look at his last one. Irs clear hes angry and illogical :)

    Alex, I never mentioned any names or even said it was any of your sites did I? I could have been talking about other companies. A lot of the girls I have recently worked with are from YOUR site? LMFAO! You have that the other way around jackass. I was shooting and producing female wrestling/fight videos while you were nothing more than a jerk off on a computer. I was working with most of those girls you are currently using years before you ever did LOL Hell, I started Cali Logan’s career. She was Cassandra Stanton and doing nothing but modeling for creepy old guys at photo shoots before me and my partners found her, picked the name for her and got her international attention. So you can talk shit about me all you want, but know your role. You werent shit in this industry up until the last year or two and even then, you have a ways to go. Why do you think no one but this site promotes your lame bullshit? I have thousands of affiliates, websites, TGPs etc…promoting my shit for years. Keep thinking you are the shit though, it amuses me.

  62. Hey dumb ass, I never said I discovered anyone–I said that we hire a lot of the same girls (and you have TRIED to hire some of them, but failed), so you are a MORON for calling those same girls out of shape, etc.

    See if any of them work for you after what you said about them. ;)

  63. Michael

    Yea, we have used some of the same models. You no doubt saw them on my sites and came up with a bright idea to start shooting wrestling/catfight videos and hire them to work with you. What happened? Your vampire, slayer, robot, witch websites werent making shit? So you had to turn to things companies like DT, GG myself and others have been having success with for years to make a buck? I think thats quite obvious seeing as how you have updated your “wrestling” site about 7-8 times while all your other sites no one cared about sit untouched. Not only did we lay the groundwork for your success, we also provided you with ready made talent we had created. So yea, you’re welcome :)

  64. Michael

    Anyways, I am done arguing with people on this site. I have things to do and its counter-productive. So everyone keep on doing what you do but please try and keep it real. Dont lie to customers and say one thing but deliver another. I’m out.

  65. The idea that you have been doing this as long as you claim, and yet your product STILL looks the way it does–it just makes me tremble with disgust.

    The idea that I have copied you is SO funny that I can’t even respond to it. Your Kickassgirlz site is the only site of yours I saw before I started my wrestling site, and the “catfighting” on that site is some of the WORST-produced material in the genre. That is an opinion that is all but universally held amongst catfight fans.

    So thank you, Fatty McGee, for paving the way for people like me to leave you completely in the dust.

  66. Michael

    Well if its the worst produced material in the genre, my traffic and sales sure dont reflect that. My sites have thousands of members, how many sales per video do you do? Few hundred is you are VERY lucky? LOL Hell, even my forum has over 11,000 members and more traffic then all of your sites combined, but keep hating :)

    http://catfightforums.com/

  67. Defjanefj

    Fans have decided it seems like. I havent read 1 good thing about that dude mikes work yet… So he probably should have up a day or two ago by your logic.

    And if mike(?) has a right to come on here and bash alex’s work, then alex has a right to let people know who that guy is and what he’s affiliated with; which is what he did. Then good ol mikey got into it with him about some dumb shit, clearly.

    Can’t fault alex though. If someone were to step on your shoe, then look you in the eye and say “Watch where you put your foot.” you’d go for there throat, I would.

    Lastly, way to weakly bash a pornstar. I bet your some kind of famous somewhere now …

  68. Gorleser

    Alex, thanks for being receptive to all of our feedback. Props to Paris for coming onto the forum– I think Paris is among the most amazing stars in the genre.

    Flamewars can be fun for a little while (and possibly mutually good for business), but I’d like to see the discussion to get back to what we’re all here for.

  69. Okay, I think we can close this discussion, at least I hope so.
    Alex, you still open for suggestions for the Cali+Kymberly Vs Diana+Emily match?

  70. The bahar says

    I bet that Alex Bettinger is really “Eric”, “Spizer”, “Michael” writing negative stuff about his own sites to generate hype! If you follow pro-wrestling, then you know this wouldn’t be beneath Vince McMahon to come up with such an ideal.

  71. Yes, lets leave Fatty McGee to his “thousands” of members–I’m sure he’s happily making over $60,000 a month in sales (that’s why he can’t afford to pay models industry standard rates, and why he has to trash his competition’s videos in order to stay afloat).

    Anyway, yes, I’m definitely still taking suggestions! So far I have just a few elements in place:

    Cali and Jenny will do well at the beginning, but then the heels will start to focus their attack on Cali; they’ll do the pin, but then raise Cali’s head up at the last second thing; we’ll do some forced kissing with Cali right in front of Jenny. I also had a clever request for Cali to be on all fours crawling towards Jenny, trying to make the tag, but then the Marquise comes up and grabs Cali’s bikini bottoms, holding her in place and exposing her ass, etc. We’lll also do handcuffs, the heels battering Cali while she’s cuffed, and at least one forced orgasm while Cali is in cuffs.

    Then I think the good girls will sneak a victory at the end.

    Feel free to make suggestions!

    A

  72. Good plans, I am excited about this match. I have some suggestions, I hope they will help.

    About the match’s course, it’s obvious that the face’s must have the upper hand firstly and I think they should win too. But this time I suggest a bigger part for Cali. She had only one episode so far, Jenny had much more. So I think Cali should get more humiliation and she should reach the final victory. I belive she is a strong face, almost as strong as GI Jewell.

    I have this idea: After Cali’s humiliations (forced kiss, almost pinned etc.) she finally manages to tag Kymberly and get out of the ring while Kymberly continues the fight. We know she is very strong, but maybe she still recovering from her injuries. After a big fight the heels manages to put her down too (by cheating, of course). They humilate her too, rip her shirt, remove her boots and her pantyhose, and finally they tie her to the ropes by her own pantyhose.

    From this point Jenny is totally helpless. Diana and Emily are having fun in Kymberly, but Cali (who still in bad state) rises up and tag herself to the fight instead of Jenny. Cali makes an unexpected move and manages to pin one of the faces. So Diana and Emily are defeated, and become angry, so maybe this is time for some double humiliation on the tired face-duo (put Cali’s face between Kymberly'”s breasts?).

    In the end, maybe someone can save the faces. What about Christina Carter, as the owner of the XCW? Any chance of her? She could be face-sided, the opposite of the heel-sided James. And this would be a good chance to a big first-appearance.

    If not Christina, then an other face help, or I don’t know, Diana and Emily just get bored and go. I think Kymberly and Cali can win this battle, but they can’t escape alone from the revenge of the heels in this state.

    What do you think?

  73. Love all those ideas–yeah, it might be good to give Cali a little push as a top face. I think I’m sold. :)

    I like the idea that the heels think Cali is finished (maybe KOd outside the ring), and so they end up tying Jenny to the ropes near the good girls’ own corner, so Cali can tag herself in and score the victory.

    The owner making an appearance might be just the ticket too–I will see if I can get everyone’s schedules to line up!

  74. Glad you like the ideas.
    Any news, any ideas, please share with us.

  75. I agree with your suggestions but I don´t think that the good girls shouldn´t sneak a victory at the end. For me it is much hotter to see the girls who get the humiliation defeated on the ground or in chains at the end. And one more thing: Please don´t remove the boots!

  76. Don’t worry, the good girls will definitely be left pretty battered–but we do need to make sure the good girls win from time to time, ha ha.

    Ah, the boots–there can never be agreement on that detail, lol. I will have only one of the girls de-booted, how about that?

  77. Okay-okay, I know we have lots of boots-fan, so here is my idea:
    Kymberly or Cali gets de-booted and gets her pantyhose removed.
    Kymberly will be tied with her own or Cali’s removed pantyhose.
    And the other one keeps both of them.
    What do you think?

  78. “Okay-okay, I know we have lots of boots-fan, so here is my idea:
    Kymberly or Cali gets de-booted and gets her pantyhose removed.
    Kymberly will be tied with her own or Cali’s removed pantyhose.
    And the other one keeps both of them.
    What do you think?”

    Yeah good to make both boot and de-booting fans happy. As stated, could do one girls shoes on, one girls shoes off, or boots on for the first half of the show and both girls de-booted for the second half. Like the idea of Kymberly tied with pantyhose, and I’d love to see Cali stripped down to just her pantyhose. That’s such a scorching hot sexy look, especially if she’s cuffed and humiliated scantily clad like that.

  79. I like this idea too.
    I admit that the boots are required in a pro-style wrestlin video, but I like when the girls lose their clothes or get them ripped and damaged. It indicates how serious the fight is.

  80. Sugarcoater

    I have a hard time trusting someone’s statistical claims when they can’t even spell “THAN” or “IT’S” correctly. Usually such consistent mistakes reflect a lack of education, which tends to reflect a lack of business sense (see SHC’s unfortunate fall from grace).

  81. Michael

    Wow Alex, great ideas….for a PORN movie! Why dont you just quite being a little pussy, cut out the fake wrestling bullshit no one cares about anyways, grow some balls and actually shoot a porn? Its quite obvious you and your “fans” care nothing about wrestling or fighting, all they want are tit grabbing, forced (fake) orgasms, spankings etc…

  82. Aw, it looks like Michael is mad that we called him out on yet ANOTHER lie. Keep the rants coming, fat boy, they get funnier each time!.

    And YES, keep the awesome ideas coming guys–I’m all ears! Wrestling, porn, fetish, lets do it all!

    Yeah, I think we should keep one girl’s boots on. Though I don’t think Cali will wear hose–I think I’d prefer to keep her in the sexy bikini. Bare legs. Jenny will wear hose.

    So near the end Cali comes to, tags in and snags the win. Then the heels, enraged, perhaps with James Jackson’s help, will beat the good girls down. Suddenly the owner (hopefully Christina) shows up, and JJ is scared to cross her, etc. The heels retreat? Or should we try to get Christina into the action? Seems a shame not to–but then, what would the angle be? Is she maybe a wrestler too? A former champ maybe?

    Perhaps we could set something up for the next episode–a 6 person tag match, with Marquise, Emily, and JJ against Cali, Jenny, and Christina…

  83. Michael

    Since Alex wont give you what you want, I can. Forget the fake wrestling bullshit, this is pretty much a straight up fetish porn. Kissing, fondling, spanking, whipping, breast smothering, HOM etc….

    (Link removed – please do not hijack threads to promote your own videos. Thank you. – HM)

  84. Oooh, I completely agree that Cali Logan should be the next X-Club star face! She is one of my favorite models to work with, she has great peril reactions and she is a total BABE!

    I also think Emily Addison should turn face! She is amazingly hot and like Cali she has an awesome “All-American” look. They would be like the hottest tag-team ever!

    These are just my suggestions. It’s Alex’s site and he is a total control freak, haha (love you babe!). I’m just glad he let me be a heel. I’ve played the “good girl” for years and getting to be bad as been so fun and such a challenge for me. I watch Diana Knight and Randy Orton videos for inspiration. hehe. =)

    Thank you to those who have been so supportive!

    xoxo
    Paris

  85. I have no problem with Cali’s previous outfit, the bikini and barefoot.

    But I still think Jenny should be tied with (her own) pantyhose, so she should be de-booted too. I don’t know what do you think about this, boots-fans? The boots are enough at the first half, or you want them for the whole match?

    Christina Carter, the sexi owner of the XCW and the former champion? I love the idea! So the faces hardly win, then they get humiliated by Diana, Emily and JJ. Then Christina comes in and ends their fun. She could get into action and shown them what an X Club ex-Campion is able to.

    And in the next episode, a 6 person tag match:
    Diana, Emily, JJ VS Cali, Kymberly Christina
    Perfect!

  86. Actually, both Cali and Jenny will wear boots, I just meant Cali won’t wear hose with her bikini.

    So how about this then–Christina, owner and former champ, comes in and cleans house, ALMOST. A low blow stuns Christina, and the three heels start to work her over, when Cali and Jenny regain their senses and clear the ring of the bad guys.

    It ends with the three heels retreating, and Christina raising the hands of the faces in the ring. Challenging the heels to a 6 person match.

    I think that’s the best balance of peril and face-strength, lol. What do you guys think?

  87. Ah, got it. Cali isn’t that hose girl, this is good. Okay, I understand. :)

    Yes, this is the perfect script for Chrstina’s first appearanca.

  88. Michael

    Ok, well you guys can go to the Kickass Girlz clips 4 sale store then if you want to see Cali Logan doing all the things you are requesting here and more without the lame fake wrestling to spoil your jerk off session.

  89. Oh, and please let me know if you guys think Cali should wear something other than a sexy bikini. I felt that her gimmick–the California Girl–worked well with a bikini, but if you guys have a better idea I’m all ears!

  90. I think the sexy bikini is a good match for the sexy California Girl. Maybe the color is the question.
    We all know and love the Marquise and the GI Jewell uniforms, I suppose.
    What about Emily? I loved her second, silver wear much better.
    And Christina? You said she is going to wear a business suit. I guess then the high-heeled shoes are obvious. What else?

  91. I might be alone on this but would love to see a white one piece that looks similar to the final match in All the Marbles. Then maybe the bad girl half way during the match decides she doesn’t like Cali’s outfit and rips it apart making it a two piece :)

  92. Hmmmm…I kinda like this creative solution for the one/two pieces problem.

  93. woohoo! I’m not alone!

    I think there is a lot of potential for Cali’s one piece to get torn apart against her will. It could be scripted that Cali is really excited about her new once piece wrestling outfit at the start of the vid making it more humiliating that she couldn’t stop the other girl from destroying it.

  94. I think I have to agree. Bikini is sexy too, but we can give a shot to the one piece outfit.
    It has lots of ripping potential.

  95. Okay, I”m sold on the idea! Thanks for suggesting it Rye!

    I’m thinking pink, with maybe a black racing stripe?

    Torn apart? Oh definitely.

  96. Gorleser

    Although I wish Cali and Jenny would end up on the losing side (or at least one of them winding up unconscious and having to be “tended to” by the other), I know that the faces have to win some of them, and you can’t jam everything into a vid that you’d like. I love what you’ve worked out here Alex! MWT!

  97. Sugarcoater

    I thought you were done with the posts. Yet still you add four more, lol. While you request that others “grow some balls,” how about you grow some brains? Seems stupid to insult fans of the genre that could easily cross over from Alex’s work to yours, but then again, you can’t even spell “it’s” properly…

  98. Ok totally off topic here lol but Alex you posted a link as a comment on here for a new superheroine movie? I was just wondering if you could give me a release date on it and what site I would be able to find it in, Thanks!

  99. I’m working on that one right now actually–I think it’s a pretty easy edit, but you never know. Maybe by tomorrow night, but by Friday for sure.

    Lux Kassidy is so friggin hot–wait til you see her body in this heroine costume!

  100. Warren Griffin

    Firstly, HUGE props to Alex for actually making the development of his video scripts an interactive affair with so much fan input. I can’t recall another vendor I’ve seen take this concept to such a high level. It’s really refreshing (and makes so much sense) to let your viewers be such a big part of the story ideas.

    Secondly, equally HUGE props to Paris for stopping by, and for being the world’s greatest good-girl-turned-heel! I was already a major fan in your perpetual good-girl days, but was blown away when you showed that you can rock the heel role just as well. I don’t know anyone else quite so superb on both sides of the character spectrum.

    Thirdly, YES, I agree Emily Addison would be a spectacular face! No one else seemed to jump on that, but I think she’s one who is hot regardless but has a look and demeanor that would shine even more on the face side of things.

    Fourthly (why I keep counting, I don’t know–but I started that way, so I’m just running with it), the one-piece becoming two-piece thing is brilliant, and I’m glad others were able to sell Alex on that.

    Fifthly, I don’t want to mess with the purity of your X Club Wrestling setup, but I wonder if down the road, it could be possible to just occasionally mix in a superheroine element. Back in Hawk Heroine days, there were some ring matches, like Diana Knight vs Mega Babe, and I always liked the squared circle as a stage for heroine combat. This wouldn’t be a regular thing, but just for variety, maybe you could have one special edition X Club Wrestling episode in which a superheroine from your other videos agrees to a “take on all comers” style match with the regular X Club crowd as a charity event exhibition or something. In the name of a good cause, the heroine would take on both multiple heels and multiple faces, who would be free to even try to gang up on her. It would be interesting to for once see the heels and faces aligned on the same side of the fight, all trying to take down the super-powered heroine. But the heroine (being a superhero) is able to fend everyone off … until … either:

    Option 1) A supervillainess nemesis shows up uninvited and jumps in the ring to spoil the show, and now the heroine can’t withstand fighting another super-powered adversary plus the wrestling gals, and she is overwhelmed. The faces realize things have gone too far in the name of charity as the supervillainess and heels really start humiliating the heroine badly and tearing her body apart, so the faces stage a counter-attack on the supervillainess and fight valiantly (though they are outgunned by the villainess’ superpowers) just long enough for the heroine to recover her strength and rejoin the fight, which is now on more even footing. So it becomes a faces-vs-heels brawl with one heroine helping the faces and one villainess helping the heels. I pick the heroine-face team to ultimately win, but after lots of difficult back-and-forth. I also could easily be swayed the other way, if most fans would rather see the evildoers win.

    or

    Option 2) No supervillainess shows up, but one of the heels cheats by introducing whatever the thing is that exploits the heroine’s one weakness, like the special substance that drains her power, or removal of her power belt, or whatever that heroine’s particular vulnerability is. This tactic was not supposed to be allowed in this charity exhibition, but a heel cheats and does it anyway, and now the heroine is no longer super-powered, and she starts getting a ruthless revenge gang-beating while being taunted because without her precious super-powers, she’s no longer so special and succumbs to the brutality of X Club style pro-moves galore. But again, the faces eventually realize it’s getting out of hand and try to help the heroine, so a face-heel war erupts with the heroine tossed in as an extra pawn in the game. She’s too hurt to turn the tide all by herself without her powers, but she keeps trying to help the faces and winds up getting targeted by the heels for more abuse. Maybe the faces eventually succeed in neutralizing whatever the cheating tactic was that stripped the heroine of her powers in the first place, and finally the heroine can help clean house. Or maybe the face-heroine team still loses badly, because the heroine remains powerless and doesn’t really know how to wrestle for real, so she’s just minced meat in the ring and actually winds up being a liability for the faces, because she can’t really hold her own and the faces keep having to come to her rescue, which leaves the faces themselves vulnerable to counter-attacks. Could go either way … fans could decide the outcome by consensus.

    Anyway, that was longer than I’d intended to go on, but the point is just to show that maybe there could be some interesting way to mix X Club and superheroine characters for a special episode here or there. Nothing consistent that would disrupt the X Club story lines you already have going, but just a rare added bit of variety.

    Just my five cents! ;)

  101. alex dude just ignor that little shit michael he just doesnt get we love wrestling and we like 2 watch hott girls wrestle and do sexy thing in the ring the way he’s acting he just loves 2 watch guys wrestle little fag lol just ignor him dude and still cant wait 2 c kelly back and the new episodes dude :}

  102. Michael

    Josh, you guys love wrestling? Really? How come in EVERY, SINGLE thread I read with suggestions for these videos, all it is filled with are ways to undress or sexually humiliate the girls? I have seen absolutely ZERO suggestions on WRESTLING moves to be used or how to make the laughable wrestling/fighting scenes better. So knock it off with the bullshit, everyone here just wants to see the girls playing lesbian shooting fake porn. Why not just watch the real shit?

  103. If this was facebook I would definitely “like” Warren Griffin’s comment. Sounds like it would make one big epic episode, what do you think Alex?

  104. bug off michael..enough with ur negative comments..if u don’t like this video then bug off and stop thrashing it..

  105. I think it’s time to wind down the negative comments and insults, and that goes for everyone. Let’s keep things positive on this site and focus on the subject of this thread, which is Alex’s X Club Wrestling videos, specifically Episode 6 and upcoming videos in the series.

    I really wanted to avoid setting up rules for posting, threatening to ban people, etc., but it may be getting to that point. I would rather avoid that altogether, so let’s try to keep the discussion as constructive as possible. Thanks!

  106. I pesonally wouldn’t mind a few rules, heh heh. I think the principle you invoked earlier, HM–that one shouldn’t use a thread devoted to someone else’s video/series/site in order to promote one’s own, unrelated video/series/site–is a good one. As it is, Michael is just using the popularity of my site/videos, and the activitiy of threads like this one, in order to try to scrounge up a handful of sales
    for his own sites. It makes the discussion of this fantasy series much less productive with him constantly interrupting, trying to draw attention to his own lline of unrelated, amateurish, backyard videos. It makes this feel less like a discussion and more like a series of commercials.

    After all, Michael did submit his works for review here, correct? There have been threads devoted to Michael’s product, right? If he wants to urge people to buy his products, it should be there. (Probably the reason he feels compelled to post on the thread devoted to MY products is because no one bothered to comment on his thread. But that’s not my fault, and my thread shouldn’t have to suffer because of it.)

    Producers like myself and the other great companies featured here have been able to resist the temptation to post ads for our own products on threads devoted to Michael’s. He should show the same restraint. :)

    But I completely understand the appeal of a no-rules forum, too; free speech and all that, heh heh. Eeither way has its upside :) Just throwin in my two cents.

  107. Love the idea, Warren (any relation to Peter Griffin?)

    It would have to be a stand alone video, of course–no relation to X Club Wrestling. Though I suppose we could use X Club characters.

    I like the second idea, that the normal human wrestlers get their hands on Kryptonite (or whatever the substance is that weakens the heroine) and end up dominating her.

    I think we can do this! Actually, just last night I was discussing with one of our writers an idea for a cyber heroine who is equipped with both human and computer brains–her weakness is humiliation itself, since humiliation causes short circuits in her brain/computer interface (the computer can’t handle that emotion for whatever reason). So her opponents try to humiliate her to make her weak, etc.

    Maybe I’ll shoot a double feature, with the same concept: Superheroine is put in an exhibition match with wrestlers to show how powerful she is. But the heels know her weakness and exploit it. We’ll do it once with a traditional superheroine, and once with the cyber heroine I just mentioned.

  108. You’re right about all of this, Alex. In fact, there has never really been a problem of any kind on this site until “Eric”/Michael came along and spoiled the fun. So now do I implement new rules and restrictions for everyone just because one guy has the ability to shut down the discussion? I’m leaning much more in the direction of just banning people who act like douche-waffles (to use Rye’s term). In any event, I will most likely institute some new rules in the very near future to prevent this sort of thing from happening again.

  109. The bahar says

    The moderator of the forum should take more responsibility for this thread hi-jacking. This is mostly his fault, he could’ve implemented a username/password feature on this board to somewhat resolve the problem of people creating multiple identities. Nice job, HM!

  110. Warren Griffin

    Hey Alex,

    Thanks.

    (No relation to Peter.)

    Glad you are up for some version of this crossover idea! I think it would be great to use X Club characters, even though the video would be standalone, but you also could make new wrestling characters if you wanted.

    The cyber heroine sounds awesome! It’s always extra cool when the heroine’s weakness is itself something hot, like humiliation or sensual stimulation. I like the brain short-circuit angle. A computer for half the brain could also lead to some other interesting possibilities, like the heels finding a way to hack in (wirelessly, of course) and subvert some of the cyber heroine’s programming, making her do things she doesn’t want to do, which could be a route of humiliation in and of itself if they make her do sexy stuff against the will of her human brain because the computer part of her brain has been compromised. Or maybe the heels make the cyber heroine turn on the faces and help humiliate them too, which would be doubly humiliating and mortifying for the human part of the cyber heroine to have to watch herself doing from inside her own head. Anyway, a double feature with the cyber heroine and then a traditional heroine getting the treatment from human wrestlers would be splendiferous!

    Thanks for listening!

  111. Yes, “bahar,” you’re right, if only I had created yet another web site where everyone has to log in, remember their username and password, log out, etc., that would have prevented all of this.

    …Except that Michael has also used fake names on other forums that DO require usernames and passwords to promote his videos and to trash other producers’ work. So a username/password function would have most likely done nothing to prevent this from happening, in addition to being really inconvenient for everyone.

    More importantly, the fact that you, “bahar,” are also a rival producer using a fake name strikes me as a little ironic, to say the least. I mean, here you are pretending to be outraged about the use of phony usernames, when you’ve in fact taken someone else’s name to disguise the fact that you’re also a producer. I can understand why, since your comments are a never-ending fountain of negativity aimed at your fellow industry professionals like Alex Bettinger and Paris Kennedy.

    Since you’re in favor of implementing additional features to prevent thread hijacking and other nefarious activities, how about I start by banning you if you leave even one more negative comment?

  112. DianaKnightMustLose

    Hey Alex,

    I want to write for you. Is there an email I can reach you at?

  113. What’s funny is that I don’t even think there is anything inherently wrong with a rival producer using an alias to post a review of my product, IF he is a genuine customer. That is, if he really was drawn to my product because of the promos or free samples, but then was genuinely disappointed by the content–if that’s the case, then I want to know and would welcome his review. If he wants to use an alias so his review isn’t written off as just a rival producer being competitive, I would understand that.

    What I objected to here is that Michael KNEW that my videos don’t have hardcore and that they don’t depict “real” wrestling matches, but bought the video anyway for the sole purpose of trashing it here. That is what was so douchy. Plus he then used this thread to push his own product. Again, douchy.

    I don’t know or care who bahar is–he seems to be having a hard enough time putting together a coherent thought. I have no interest in making his life more difficult than it already is.

  114. Sugarcoater

    HM, you’re doing a great job with this site (it’s something I’ve always thought should have been created). Bahar’s moronic suggestion that you “take responsibility” for the behavior of people who are using a FREE site is that provides a valuable resource is ridiculous. You’re doing us a favor by alerting us to updates from various sites and allowing us a forum to discuss what we think of the site. Why that requires some sort of daily check for proper decorum is ludicrous. People should be mature enough to check themselves on their posts. People like Bahar seem to merely want to get a rise out of people and then move on to something else–their comments reveal that they have no clear idea or purpose to their comments.
    Keep up the great work HM.

  115. Alex, I have a question:
    What’s the problem with your youtube account?

  116. I keep refreshing the pages every few hours waiting for it too

  117. Haven’t decided yet–Jenny is sort of like an old school “blader,” lol. So she might be busted open. But not sure yet. Depends on the action more generally. Sometimes it doesn’t really add anything, and I definitely don’t want to overuse it.

  118. I asked because I imagined a whipping scene. Maybe not this time, but when Jenny is tied to the ropes by her own hose, she could be whipped by something, and this could cause some straight blood lines in her back and of course lots of shirt ripping.
    Just an idea.

  119. Michael

    LOL, werent you just calling my shit amateur? Jesus dude, that house she walks into doesnt even have any furniture and its shot cheesy as hell with bad music and framing. You better have incredible shit if you are going to call out others work and yours is laughable. At least shoot in 24p to make it look somewhat realistic. What did you film that with? Thats about as amateur looking as it gets.

  120. I’ve had to make 6 youtube accounts since June.. I feel your pain! Would not surprise me if it was the same loser killing my channels.
    Just for fun I made a couple of movies that were not searchable and could only be viewed if you had the link. Within hours after posting the link at hypnoticsworld and Harry’s site it was flagged lol…

  121. cause its not on every single day dude this is just a sexy thing we like 2 c hott girls do if u dont like it then quite talking shit about it and go b a queer some where else and what the fuck do u know about wrestling im in pro training right now for pro wrestling who the fuck r u to trash talk something we like then talk about pro wrestling when u dont know a damn thing about it fuck u dude

  122. it looks pretty good 2 me dude lol and alex do u when and who going 2 b in the next video just asking

  123. Thanks for the teaser clip of Lux she is looking very hot.

    For the new movie Rye said he’d love to see a white one piece. A white one piece with a black stripe would look hot. And white boots to match would give her that pure good girl appearance.

    Suggestions

    Chloroform cloth. The bad girls have a secret weapon tucked away that can be used to knock out opponents and make opponents half conscious so they can muster little resistance.

    Strap-On tit-fucking. There’s no penetration so it cancels out the Fake/Real issue. From what I’ve read Cali’s going to be handcuffed. If her hands are handcuffed behind her that sets up a perfect opportunity for the two bad girls to strap-on tit-fuck her. They even have strap-ons you can purchase that squirt liquid. Two words .. Fantasy facial!

    On the issue of clothing. The more she wears at the start the more of a strip show there is to be had throughout the course of the fight.

  124. Here is another little tease from the new Superheroine World vid–watch it while you can, because chances are one of my competitors will report this to You Tube the moment I post this, lol.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X4Dz8WXgsos

    Travis, I LOVE the idea of doing a tit-fucking scene. I think Cali would be okay with that–I’ll check. :)

  125. PLEASE READ: I’d like to direct everyone’s attention to the brand new Rules for Posting Comments™, a page that never should have been required, but one that has unfortunately become necessary.

    The new rules are effective immediately. To those of you who are the root cause of all of the problems related to the comments, I strongly urge you to read carefully because you’re only going to get one shot at this. For example, several comments already left in this thread would now result in immediate banning.

    Thanks for your cooperation, everyone. And for the 99.99% of you who leave useful and interesting comments, thanks for your patience and please accept my apologies for not setting up ground rules sooner.

    (Although in my defense, if everyone would just exercise basic common decency, none of this would be necessary.)

    http://www.heroinemovies.com/rules-for-posting-comments

  126. But don’t forget, we agreed that Cali should won the fight for the faces.
    Maybe she could handcuffed and “fucked” after the match ends.
    And then Chrstina comes in, almost saves the day, she gets humiliated too by the three heels, but she manages to free Cali and Jenny, so they can clean the ring together.
    Who does this sound?

  127. The tit fucking thing doesn’t really do anything for me and Cali is my favorite so I’m hoping it doesn’t take the place of other things that can be done to her. At the same time I know you can’t please everybody since we all have different preferences.

  128. Hey you’re right we all have different preferences. And to me a tit fucking scene with Cali Logan is worth the price of admission.

  129. Sorry guys, the You Tube vid was already taken down. Strange, it was only here and my twitter account that I mentioned the video. Wonder who filed the complaint?

    Whoever it is, he’s trying to prevent YOU from seeing the FREE samples of our vids. I

    Not to worry, free samples for everyone very soon!

  130. Oh, don’t worry. We saw it and it is going to be an awasome video to.

  131. Paris Kennedy

    Ugh. Why is he STILL bothering and annoying us? *yawn*

    Don’t worry, we will get the free video to you no matter what! I’m so happy, Lux looks so drop dead GORGEOUS. If you can believe it she is even more beautiful in person. This was an audition video for her and she nailed it. And she will be the star of my full-length feature shooting next month for my new DVD line. She is a rare gem, truly. The whole package IMO. I’ve been a fan of her modeling and fitness work for years and I am so excited to be working with her in upcoming projects.

    Hope you guys enjoy the video. I’m no Alex B but it looked damn hot when I was directing it. I can’t wait to watch the finished product myself. HURRY UP ALEX! (j/k)

    xoxoxo
    Paris

  132. how annoying was that twitvid to sign up for!! J/k but that seriously was frustrating too bad douches have to ruin it for youtube

  133. It’s awasome you are here Paris. :) Don’t bother yourself about that guy, he is just angry and jealous for no one gives a sh…t about his videos here, and Alex’s video has more than 150 messages, full of suggestions.

    I know this is out of topics a little, but what about the Slayer Paris series?
    I admit that the Pro-Style Fantasies incredible, and I’m glad we will get a new superheroine issue, but what about the old vampires? I hope you didn’t tired of them.

  134. Hi Fan!

    We are definitely not finished with Slayer Paris. It was super popular, but it got a little bit exhausting having such a big cast and having to coordinate everyone’s schedule, flying models in, etc. When the wrestling site really took off, Alex and I decided to take a little break and put all our work into that cause we were both SO excited to be doing something new and different. And I got very excited about developing the Roxy Blade character, haha (she even has a Twitter and Facebook). So we put everything else on hold for a couple months and just focused on X-Club and me on my official hardcore website.

    But now that the wrestling site is up and doing great we are going back to our other projects. Shooting again for http://www.superheroineworld.com and we are planning “Slayer Paris: The Movie”, which I would LOVE suggestions for! Remember that in the last episode I was still trapped in the Nexus Demon’s body!

    xoxoxo
    Paris

  135. Ryan Witalison

    Just adding in my two cents to say keep up the great work Alex, this Micheal is clearly not confident enough in his own product that he has to bad mouth others.

    Great news about Slayer Paris, can’t wait to see what this film looks like

  136. Warren Griffin

    Loving Lux, from the previews so far! Glad to hear she’s likely to become a regular with you guys.

    But what is this new DVD line to which you refer, Paris? Do you mean the full-length Slayer Paris movie mentioned below, or something totally different that we haven’t actually heard about before??? Inquiring minds want to know! :)

  137. i think its hott dude also wb a stinkface match or a kiss my ass match that would b hott 2 lol

  138. Hey guys, I keep forgetting that my billing company is 9 hours ahead of us here on the west coast; by the time I sent in the info for the new Lux Kassidy video they were all already off for New Years Eve. My bad. Look for the new video first thing Monday!

  139. DianaKnightFan

    Hey Alex,

    Have you thought about using Monica Foster at all for the X-Club videos? I think she’d make a great referee / part-time wrestler character.

  140. CaptainCrude

    Hey Alex,
    I love Michael’s argument, “You’re not shooting real fake wrestling, you’re shooting fake fake wrestling”. What an ass goblin. Alex you don’t need me to tell you, but you’re definitely in the right.

    On previous comments, I think Cali’s outfit works with the style she’s shooting for being a California Girl so I personally wouldn’t change it. Emily also looks good in a swimsuit, but I could also see her in a piece like this in the future so that she separates her look from Cali’s

    http://www.amazon.com/Trendy-Monokini-Swimsuit-Bathing-Swimwear/dp/B001RVXYZ4

    And pleaaaaase keep Emily as a heel

  141. Alex, what about the whipping scene with Jenny which I have mentioned before? Any chance?
    And an other question: Are you planning bring new characters in the XCW or you will work what you already have for a while?

  142. Warren: Paris’s new line will be similar to our current movies, with the same sort of action and costmes, only also with hardcore sex. Rated XXX.

    Fan: I’d like to throw in a whipping scene; actually our original idea for the Marquise was for her to have a riding crop. I’ll see if I can pick one up this week.

    Josh: We’ll definitely throw in the stinkface move again in future matches, but probably not as a specialty match–I prefer to keep it just a sporadic and humiliating move from time to time. But we’ll bring Kelly back very soon–she’ll definitely use that move in her matches!

    DianaKnightFan: I actually don’t know Monica Foster, but I’ll look her up!

    Captain Crude: Sorry man, I think I’m going to give the one-piece a try, and Emily might be made a face in an upcoming episode. Sorry!

    Fan: We are always bringing in new characters, and we are also going to be using a lot of the old ones too. Expect both!

    HT: Probably not going to bring the old Crimson Hawk vids back any time soon. Maybe on a separate site in the future!

    The Lux video should be ready to go in a few hours–I just got WAY distracted by New Years Eve, lol. Check back tomorrow morning!

  143. The superheroine video with Lux Kassidy in it is now available! Check out all the free samples at SuperHeroineWorld.com!

    We really dig Lux–let us know what you think!

  144. The promo looks promising.
    This will be a single story or the first part of a bigger story, like the Black Falcon series?
    I hope the last, Lux Kassidy is beautiful and a perfect heroine.

    When will you shot the next video from XCW, or any other site?

  145. UhZoomZip

    XCW is seriously the best shit ever and so long as the quality fails to abate I will forever fork over my ca$hmoneys. Looking forward to the return of Emily the Assassin..

  146. alex u r the man dude i love all the videos the stinkface is my fav move and kelly is my fav girl still love all the videos and thanks 4 telling me the info about the stinkface looking forward 2 the new videos and kelly returning soon keep it up dude i got your back and u got my support :D

  147. Hey everyone–the gym where we shoot XCW is moving, and won’t have the ring set up at the new location by tomorrow, so the cool Cali/Jewell vs. Marquise/Emily match won’t get shot tomorrow. Instead, I’m going to shoot a hot and wild catfight with Kym, Emily, and Cali.

    Then, on the 16th, I think I will just continue with the Team Evil vs. the Femme Fatales storyline. How about Charlie Laine and Lux Kassidy as the Femme Fatales??

  148. That really sucks, at least they won’t waste the day. Maybe we’ll get the Cali/Jewell vs. Marquise/Emily match some other time.
    I do like the idea of Charlie Laine and Lux Kassidy as the Femme Fatales though

  149. Is there going to be any bondage, any forced orgasms, for the girl that gets defeated. Could we still get the tit fucking scene with Cali if she loses and gets tied up.

    Since it’s not going to be wrestling can the girls start the catfight dressed to kill, tight tops, mini skirts, hose, heels.

  150. Also, the Charlie Laine and Lux Kassidy as the Femme Fatales sounds hot.

  151. hw2010

    totally agree charlie and lux sounds amazing! Please get that to happen!

  152. Oh, bad news. :(
    But life goes on, lets see what can we do with the occasion.

    Charlie Lane + Lux Cassidy = Femme Fatales? And against the Team Evil? Awasome! I think I have some ideas about the match, but discuss this later.

    The Kymberly, Emily and Cali catfight sounds good, any plans about the characters and the situation?

    And please don’t forget about our ideas for a Kymberly+Cali+Christina Vs Emily+Diana+James.

  153. Kymberly+Cali+Christina Vs Emily+Diana+James would be an unforgettable match. But you really need to have the tag team set up match first.

  154. Yes, we talked about a Kymberly+Cali VS Diana+Emily match first, which ends with a face score, face humiliation, some help by the former champion and now XCW owner Chrstina Carter and a triple face team up against the heels. :)

  155. Hey guys, just gotta say i really enjoyed this vid! These matches are getting better and better though they could still be a little more even (2-way)
    I like the fact the heels use dirty moves like low blows and titbusts etc. but i wouldnt mind seeing some of the “good” girls resorting to low blows out of frustration/anger (especially if Paris/Roxy is on the receiving end) with the heel reacting in shock at receiving a taste of their own medicine :P
    Apart from that, love the characters, love the costumes (more skirts/dresses would be cool) and for the love of god KEEP THE LOWBLOWS AND TB!
    Your sites (AB and Paris) are some of the few companies that use them convincingly. RingDivas does low blow matches but dont sell them particularly well and they are also anti-TB :(
    Keep up the good work!

  156. any word on the next episode release date? Is there anywhere other than on here that this site gets discussed?

  157. Sorry for the delay–the gym where we shoot is relocating and it’s taking them longer than expected to set up. We moved the Team Evil vs. Femme Fatales to the 27th. Should come out soon after that!

    In the meantime, we’ve been working on our new HD system, just had a few bugs to work out (specifically an incompatibility with my editing software and my the way my new OS handles RAM). But I am making the final fixes now (hopefully!).

    We shot a fun HD catfight video with Cali Logan, Kym Jane, and Emily Addison which should be available later tonight at CatfightFantasies.com Stay tuned!

  158. Hey guys, new video up at Catfight Fantasies, check out the samples to get a sense of our new image quality.

    http://www.CatfightFantasies.com

    We’re still playing around with settings, resolution, file sizes, etc. Take a look and feel free to give me feedback on what types of files you’d most want–huge ones, small ones, medium, etc.

  159. It’s a shame you could not shoot the Femme Fatales VS Team Evil, but if we got this incredible Cali Vs Kymberly Vs Emily fight, I think it was worth it.

  160. Sorry Alex but nothing new ist up when I follow the link. Newest video up there is Rich Bitch vs. Maid…

  161. David, I think you have the problem, because I can see the new video and I already have downloaded and watched the free samples.

  162. I’m glad you are back Alex!
    So, 27th is for a Tag Team match between Femme Fatales (Lux Cassidy + Charlie Lane) and Team Evil for the Tag Team Champion belts?
    Any spoilers?

  163. Hey alex, I sent you an email and was wondering if you got it!! Thanks!!

  164. Michael

    Congrats on FINALLY making it to the world of HD, now you need to upgrade everything else to handle it. 1hr and 43 minutes to download a file is ridiculous and I have a very fast connection. Even the smaller file is taking over an hour to download, not good. With how successful you claim to be and all the bling you must be making, surely you can afford to upgrade your server :)

  165. Hello again, Mike. Thanks for your purchase–inexplicable though it is, considering how much you loathe my material. Three things.

    1. I’ve never claimed to be successful. You’re the one that boasted of having thousands of members, not me.
    2. I’ve never once used the word “bling” (outside of this very sentence).
    3. A lot of people have been getting the new catfight vid at once–I will raise the bandwidth cap on my dedicated server first thing tomorrow. Wasn’t expecting so much traffic for this one. But thanks for your concern. :)

  166. Fan: Yes, we are shooting that match on the 27th, should be awesome. I’m open for suggestions. I think we’ll continue the storyline of the Marquise helping out Team Evil–probably helping them to win the titles in this match. Looks like the Marquise has her eye on a couple of new recruits…

    Feel free to make suggestions for that match!

    J: Can you email me again? Your message might have gotten buried…

  167. Im just happy 2 have these sights and always great to here more news :)

  168. Damn, that tag team sounds like it’s going to be amazing.

    I can’t wait to see Charlie Lane in action!

  169. Let’s see what we have, I hope I can help with my ideas:

    Firstly, about the winner. I think the Team Evil should win this battle and the belts (by the effective help of The Marquise), since we have Jenny as the single champion, and Jenny+Cali is going to win a tag team match too, so I suppose we need a big heel score this time.

    How does this sound: this time the heels start strong, they attack our beloved champions before the beginning of the match (maybe in the locker room, like Diana did with Kymberly?).
    Then the faces turn the table and almost win the match. They knock out both Roxy and Anne, but can’t decide which one of them should score the precious victory on Team Evil. They spend too much time with arguing (maybe they hit each other too), Diana comes in and turns the table fatally.
    Nothing left to our Fatales, but an incredible beatdown by the three heels and the loose of their belts.

    And something about the Femme Fatales: I guess they are some kind of faces, but they are Fatales, so I think there could be a little bit of heel in them. I am talking about the humiliation of the Team Evil, of course. Not so intensive, but I think everyone want to see Paris and Anne on a little trouble, little stripping, little humiliation. But of course, in the end they give it back twice as strong.

    What do you guys (and Alex, of course) think?

  170. I agree that Team Evil should win the belts.

    If the Femme Fatales argue, I would love to see one walk out on the other leaving a 3 on 1 situation in the ring.

    As a Charlie Lane fan, I would love it if she were the one to suffer the 3 on 1 beatdown.

  171. I am ok with suggestions; however i do think that team evil should go though some strong humiliation before the tide is turned (a win-win of sorts). they have not really had it put to them so to speak. so it should look like it is over before the major mistake from the femme fatales.

  172. Konnor_El

    Put me down as wanting to see Team Evil humiliated also. Paris makes a great heel, but no one can sell being beaten and humiliated quite like Paris!

  173. Gorleser

    Paris’ character easily lends itself to being beaten and humiliated– with her suffering from the pro wrestling version of “mental illness”, she just undergoes a “personality change” and becomes the sweet, helpless version of Roxy Blade!

  174. I would pay a million dollars to hear Alex Bettinger use the word “bling”!!!!! HAHAHA

    I think Roxy Blade should actually develop multiple personalities! That would be soooo fun to play! *Poke* *Poke* Alex. Just sayin’!

    Paris

  175. Yes, I definitely like the idea of having Team Evil given a little taste of their own medicine before taking control of the match.

    I think I am leaning toward the Marquise convincing Jimmy Jack to let her be a special guest ref–only, no one knows until halfway through the match. JJ will suddenly come out to the ring, just as the Femme Fatales look like they’re about to score the win, and announce that the match is getting too out of control, he’s assigned a special ref to keep the cheating to a minimum, etc.

    Out comes the Marquise, who makes quite sure the Fatales get brutalized. Team Evil scores the victory and wins the belts, and then continue to punish the Femme Fatales long after the closing bell…

    How does that sound for a framework for the match?

  176. i like that idea alex. also for consideration 2 general ideas:

    1. maybe developing a sexy finishing and or wearing down move for each wrestler, for instance jenny could have the full body sexy splash pin where when an opponent went down she could jump directly on top of them face to face and splash her opponent five or more times in a row before trying a pin. Roxy could have the sexy body grinding bear hug. When an opponent down or dazed, she could grab them in a sexy bear hug but also pull the opponents body to her repeatedly as in this video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IjX3nif8j3o then trying for a pin.
    This would be a combination of glow, wow, pindowngirls, and the video game rumble roses in one. just food for thought. i know that might be challenging with time limits to the movie.

    2. maybe another idea for the new shoot would be to include the
    Marquise as a third partner when Team Evil are getting sexually abused. of course only if this is a no disqualification match.

  177. A like the “Diana as referee” idea, and I’m glad you guys like “Team Evil humiliation” idea.

    Alex, do you have plans about the outfits?
    Roxy and Anne have their own special clothes (which are hopefully get ripped of soon) but what about the Femme Fatales? Lux and Charlie could wear similar outfits too, like the Rockets did.

  178. I agree. The Femme Fatales shoud wear similar outfits but please let them show their pretty belly buttons. ;-)

  179. All great ideas!

    Yes, the Femme Fatales will be wearing cool matching outfits–pink and black. Belly buttons showing, heh heh. Going for a Mickie James spandexy type look–tight bell bottom pants, tank tops, etc.

    I don’t think the match will technically be no DQ–but since the ref will be the Marquise, that probably doesn’t make a difference, heh heh…

  180. NO PANTS! Oh, I HATE when lady wrestlers wear pants, WTF! I want to see SKIN!!!! Oh well, at least MOST of your ideas are good… haha jk. That is going to probably make me pass on the vid if the faces are wearing pants though. Wow, that blows… bummer.

  181. Ok, just to add to my above rant a tad… Faces should ALWAYS be wearing less clothes than the heels!!!!

  182. Bob: these are some TIGHT pants, ha ha. I for one really dig them. And they’ll be yanked off at some point too…

    J: I replied to your email already–check your spam folder because there were links in it.

  183. Will we get the preview of this episode? Waiting is so terrible… :)

  184. Just got off the phone with the ring guys, the ring is finally set up, so we’ll shoot today for sure!

    The new gym is still being done, so the atmosphere will be kind of gritty and messy…but it might actually enhance the tone of the match.

    Yes, I will post a preview clip!

  185. Oh, and don’t forget about leaving the Femme Fatales beaten, stripped, and humiliated, laying somewhere in the ring in the end. I liked when Team Evil left the Rockets there.

  186. Can’t wait to see the finished product.

    I’m with Bob – I like the faces in less clothing but keeping an open mind until I see what they are wearing.

  187. i also would like to see outfits showing bare or hosed legs but at the same time believe the product will be good regardless.

  188. Hey guys–shoot went great, everyone looked HOT. Femme Fatales–especially Lux Kassidy–suffered a humiliating loss (after dominating Team Evil at first).

    There were a bunch of logistical problems we had to deal with–mostly involving the gym still not being finished, so we had to be a little creative with some of the details. And we had to spend a lot of time moving things around, so I didn’t get all of the moves in that I wanted. But I don’t think anyone will be disapppointed!

    Will start editing it tomorrow–with any luck I’ll have it online by Tuesday!

    A

  189. We can’t wait to see the preview, Alex! This all sounds very good.

  190. cant wait when it comes out and alex any news about kelly returning just asking

  191. Josh: I will definitely try to get Kelly back in for a shoot soon; just have to play out this Marquise/Team Evil angle first.

    And for old school diva fans, here is a photo of Paris and Sunny, taken over the weekend at the WrestleReunion convention here in LA!

    http://www.ProStyleFantasies.com/ParisSunny.jpg

    And here is one of Paris and Torrie Wilson:

    http://www.ProStyleFantasies.com/ParisTorrie.jpg

    And here is one of Paris and Katie Lea:

    http://www.ProStyleFantasies.com/ParisKatieLea.jpg

    Oh yeah, there were guys at the convention too, ha ha:

    http://www.ProStyleFantasies.com/ParisRoddy.jpg
    http://www.ProStyleFantasies.com/ParisRoddy2.jpg
    http://www.ProStyleFantasies.com/ParisFranchise.jpg
    http://www.ProStyleFantasies.com/ParisShiek.jpg
    http://www.ProStyleFantasies.com/ParisJimmy.jpg

  192. uhzoomzip

    If you can get Katrina Waters to go along with your insanity, I’ll gladly pay quadruple the current asking price. My eyes bugged out of my head just thinking about it.

  193. awesome dude thanks 4 the update alex and looking foreword 2 the new episode

  194. Oh dear, oh dear. This time we´ve to to wait a long time for a new update of X-Wrestling. This is very hard.

  195. Hows editing coming along? Can we expect a preview trailer soon?

  196. I’m afraid the new X Club might have to wait til Monday for release; we are now fully into production for our new full-length superheroine feature, “Blue Rain”, and it’s taking up all my time. We have a very cool script–there will be fighting, peril, real sex, and a really cool story. Stay tuned for that!

    But the weekend should give me plenty of time to finish the wrestling vid–so check back on Monday!

  197. It’s a pity we have to wait for the wrestling match, but this ‘Blue Rain superheroine feature’ thing sounds very interesting. More details? :)

  198. Paris Kennedy

    It’s my fault! I needed his help on my movie. I don’t trust anyone else in the world to shoot it!

    But it will be SO worth waiting until Monday. All the girls looked so hot and you guys will LOVE what Team Evil does to Lux Kassidy and Charlie Laine. Muahahahahaha! >:)

    Paris

  199. Okay, I think this is a good reason. :)
    Paris, this “Crazy Heart Entertainment” sounds very promising.
    So this “Blue Rain” will be the first episode. Any plans for it?

  200. “you guys will LOVE what Team Evil does to Lux Kassidy and Charlie Laine. Muahahahahaha! >:)”

    That’s just making this wait even harder!

  201. Any news on if it will be up today, the wait is agonising!

  202. Hey guys–had a bad cold over the weekend, so no update today, but I feel much better this morning so I expect we will have the new video up by tomorrow. Check back then!

  203. thanks for the quick reply! I’ll be checking back tomorrow! cant wait :)

  204. Sorry for the delay–there’s some mysterious problem with the password scripts creating an internal server error when one tries to view the new pages. My billing company insists it’s the host, the hosting company is looking at it now.

    Hope to have this resolved shortly.

  205. And of course, the hosting company insists the problem is with the password scripts. I’m inclined to believe the hosting company–Verotel has made it’s share of mistakes in the past, my host has always been right.

    Unfortunately, everyone is gone for the day in the Netherlands (where the billing company is), so it looks like we’ll have to wait til tomorrow morning for the update. Sorry about that! It’s coming!

  206. ah well can’t be helped will cross my fingers for tomorrow :)

  207. Michael

    I got a few questions about XCW:

    * Will Emily Addison return in any upcoming fixtures? I would love to see her on the losing side:)

    * I would also like to see more of other stars like Akira Lane and Nicole Oring at XCW, maybe as a team, and preferably on the losing side. Are you planning on involving them again in furture episodes?:)

    * And finally, Eve Ellis, someone I haven’t seen for awhile. Would it be possible to get her on the set of one of the episodes as well? Would be great:)

    Thanks for any replies.

  208. Damn, hw2010!!! Ever heard of that little virture called patience. The impatience displayed by some of you is laughable. Not hating, just saying.

  209. I wouldn’t say i’m being impatient, just want to know what the latest is lol, the last update was it’d be a few more hours and it’s the next day so i’m just asking what happened, I’m only eagerly awaiting this video!

  210. LOL!!! Trust me, man. I know the feeling. I think we just have spoiled by all these awesome releases. Sometimes I feel like a kid in a candy store and I want more and more and more, lol.

    Looking forward to this new release as well. I have always been a superheroine peril fan but these wrestling videos have sparked my interest. They are just so damn sexy. I used to be a big ass wrestling fan back in the Attitude Era so it only makes sense that I should like something like this. My only wish is for a profile page with all the wrestler’s stats shown on there. You know, wins and losses and finishing moves. Sort of like a wiki page.

  211. Sorry again for the delay guys! Got the server error sorted out–but was uploading the final edit when I realized it was almost 2 gigs, lol (for approximately 35 minutes). Just trying a few different rendering and conversion options now til I find a good compromise between manageable file size and image quality. Video is ready to go though! Just gotta get the format just right…

    Sorry about that–this is the biggest file I’ve yet rendered in HD, so I’m still learning my way about…

  212. Michael

    This is what happens when you have ONE guy trying to coordinate, shoot and edit what? 20 sites now? Instead of focusing on a couple sites and building them up, seems they got greedy and tried to be everything to everyone to make a quick buck. Now 90% of the sites sit untouched while fans wonder if they will ever be updated again. Nice business plan.

  213. michael

    2 gigs for 35 minutes is nothing. My downloads run about 450MB for 5 minutes, but my server can handle the downloads unlike yours where it took me nearly two hours to download an 800MB file which is absurd. Figure out how to render your videos and get a real server for fast download speeds noob.

  214. Seems like a douchey comment, serving no purpose other than to annoy. But I’ll leave that for HM to decide.

    I will say that the delay is not from doing a lot of sites–it’s the natural consequence of buying all new equipment and then having to learn as you go.

    I’ll also say that we aren’t trying to be everything to everyone to make a quick buck, lol. All our projects are things we are interested in–some take off, others don’t, some take off but become too time-consuming, etc. The business plan is to keep trying concepts until we find a handful that we love, and that aren’t too expensive/time-consuming to produce. We’ll then focus on just those sites for a couple of years.

    It is a nice business plan, thanks for saying so. It works very well for us, thank you.

    I won’t comment on yours, because other than some amateurish backyard wrestling, I have no idea what you do (nor does anyone else, as far as I can tell).

  215. Download speeds are fine now–I raised the bandwidth limits on my server, thanks for reminding me to let everyone know. :)

    450 MB for 5 minutes is unacceptable for many viewers, as I understand the situation. But good luck with that.

    But if any ACTUAL fans want to chime in, let me know–is 2 gigs for a half-hour video too much or not? I assumed it would be, not because of long download waits, but simply because that’s a lot of memory to devote to one vid…

  216. Looks to me like there is another Michael here being an douchebag, so I decided to try and change the name instead and try again:-p

    “I got a few questions about XCW and would be pleased to hear any answers:

    * Will Emily Addison return in any upcoming fixtures? I would love to see her on the losing side:)

    * I would also like to see more of other stars like Akira Lane and Nicole Oring at XCW, maybe as a team, and preferably on the losing side. Are you planning on involving them again in furture episodes?:)

    * And finally, Eve Ellis, someone I haven’t seen for awhile. Would it be possible to get her on the set of one of the episodes as well? Would be great:)”

    Thanks for any replies and good luck getting the next video up Alex. We can’t wait for it:)

  217. if the quality is good, im ok with 2 gigs, as long it is SUPER HD, like blue ray quality or something.

  218. it is quite chunky for a half hour video but if thats high quality image im not too fussed

  219. Why is even bothering to comment anymore, no one cares what he thanks.

    Keep up the Good Work Alex

  220. Okay, I have a 1280 x 720 which runs about 850MP, and still looks quite nice, then I’ll also offer a small 680 x 360 for those who are still using older machines.

    Uploading them now, should be ready to go in an hour or so. Please feel free to give feedback on whether these formats/sizes suit you!

    ME2011: Sorry, I meant to write you back earlier! I think you’ll be pleased: YES, Emily will be coming back for the NEXT episode. In fact, the whole Marquise/Team Evil angle is really ultimately about Emily. I see a face-turn for her–but not before a VICIOUS 3-on-1 beatdown first, heh heh

    Akira is definitely someone we are creating a character for, but I don’t see her teaming with Nicole, since Akira will probably be a face and nicole is all heel. But yeah, look for Akira in the coming episodes!

    I’m a huge fan of Eve Ellis’s, and I keep meaning to ask her up for a shoot or two. I will definitely try that soon! Stay tuned!

  221. uhzoomzip

    throwing my hat in the ring expressing an appreciation for Eve Ellis–your guys’ Agent Eve videos are some of the classics of the genre

  222. Thanks for answering Alex, looking forward to the new vid, and I’ll stay tuned for future releases:)

    @Uhzoomzip: Indeed. Just too bad they’re not possible to buy anymore, only get a site error:-/

  223. must be having some major issues getting that vid uploaded huh?

  224. Where can I download this new episode? I don’t see it on the XCW site..?

  225. Michael

    Thats what happens when you use 2nd rate billing companies like Verotel to save a buck instead of an industry standard like CCBill. You get 2nd rate service.

  226. Dman613

    Maybe the buck he’s saving is what allows him to release a superior product.

  227. how old are you michael? You come across as well under 18 with immature digs at every single moment

  228. Dear Michael,

    No one gives a shit about your douche “opinion” anymore. Stop embarrassing yourself and go find yourself a new hobby, or better yet use this “free” time you have and think of ways to make your own products better. You’ve already done enough damage to your image in this industry by making yourself look like a 9 year old..

  229. Michael

    Of course people care about my opinion, thats why everyone replies :) Where is this mythical update thats been promised for what? 2 weeks now? A guy who doesnt even know how to render HD videos and cant figure out how to get his videos online with his 2nd rate billing company calling MY product “amateurish” Oh, the irony…

  230. However the end product is always worth ANY wait. Points kinda proved with how well liked both Alex and his work are

  231. The new XClub vid is now available guys! Go check out the free promo clip! Another free sample clip soon!

    http://www.ProStyleFantasies.com

    Sorry for the delay–got called away on some “real world” business that couldn’t wait.

    Lets start planning the new episode in the thread for the new episode, hopefully Harry can put that up in the next day or so.

    And Harry–Michael’s last comments serve no purpose but to be douchy. I think he’s breaking the one rule, no?

    Michael: what sad sacks like you just don’t get, is that you are PROVING to everyone that your sites make NO money. You see, people who are successful just don’t do what you’re doing. They don’t pose as fans, they don’t post desperate critcisms of their competitors–because they don’t have to. I don’t do what you’re doing; Rye doesn’t do it either. Next Global Crisis doesn’t either. Because we are all doing well, we have fans who enjoy our product, etc. You obviously are doing terribly; if you were doing well, you’d just focus on keeping up your success, i.e., on positive things. But since you seem to have no fans (as reflected by the fact that the thread devoted to YOUR videos got virtually NO discussion here at all), you have no choice but to lash out negatively.

    And yes, your product IS amateurish. Sorry, but it’s true! It’s why no one here cares about it enough to even discuss it.

  232. YES! Promo looks great downloading the full parts 1 and 2 now :D

  233. michael no one cares about you and your comments anymore.just let it go

  234. i agree completely with Alex in regards to Michaels comments. What a douche. I know who he is and what company is his, and I have to say I’ve given his company a few chances and honestly NEVER felt like I got my money worth. Every time I ordered a video from him I had that disappointed feeling at the end… its like NO planning went into the video, more like “lets throw two pros in the ring and see what happens”. Kinda lame if you ask me….

  235. Michael

    I have never had a “Bob” oder videos from me. An alias for Alex just to talk shit about me? Nice try dumbass.

  236. 1. I’ll have a review up later today for the new X-Club Wrestling video!

    2. I’ve decided to ban Michael from leaving any more comments. I probably should have done this a while back, but I really didn’t want to ban anyone from the site. However, it’s now obvious that Michael is not interested in adding anything to the discussion as every single one of his comments is an attempt to disrupt the discussion, annoy, insult, etc., so I think it’s for the best this way. The idea here is to establish a place where viewers can read about these videos and discuss them without being insulted or annoyed, and where producers can interact with fans without having the conversation hijacked and without having their products needlessly disparaged. Legitimate criticism is perfectly okay, but Michael’s comments were just dishonest and mean-spirited from the beginning.

  237. This was the most entertaining thread I’ve ever read in my life. If definitely got me through some boring time at work. I’m constantly amazed and surprised at the stupidity of others. I’m now a little disappointed you banned him HM, I’ll miss the fodder. However, I am suprised you let him rant and rave like a lunatic for so long. And on the other hand, I’m totally turned on by a lot of these ideas for the next videos. I’m looking forward to seeing them.

  238. I just think it’s really funny that Michael knows, offhand apparently, that he’s never made a sale to anyone named “bob”.

    And no, I don’t pose as fans on this board. But someone else has…who was it…oh yeah, Michael, lol.

    Anyway, I don’t want there to be such a long wait between eps, so I am ready to start discussing the next one in the new thread!

  239. Britt – Thanks! This has been a really unusual thread. 300+ comments! Don’t worry, there will be much more entertainment for everyone in future comment threads, I’m sure.

    Alex – Well, in Michael’s defense, “Bob” is an extremely unusual name.

    And no, Bob is not Alex. Unless Alex decided to create an alias to keep asking himself when his video will be released. Seems kind of pointless to me. And the IP addresses don’t match, if there was ever any real doubt about this (which there wasn’t).

  240. late to the show but, michael has a points as does paris. porn stars are hot, paris is definitely one of the yummier ones i could watch and drool all day, but yes, michael has a good point about strapons. if you’re gonna advertise, use them… please! its fantasy and paris is fantasy worthy but i dont want to have to believe that shes using a strapon i want to know it.

    regardless, its well done and sexy as hell, even it if its as fake as WWE, but all i want to know is how do i to ask/beg/plead to i get that sexy woman to beat me down :P