Consentual Film?

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JoeyJon avatar
1 year ago

Hey I got this idea from the superheroine who gets addicted to drugs plot that’s been going on. So you could have one of these superheroines who got tricked into getting addicted to heroine or crack or whatever – become disgraced in the eyes of society. So she starts doing porn in her uniform for drugs. So you have the part one and part two videos. One is a regular porn shoot starring our Heroine in her costume doing porn – Part two is behinbd the scenes of the porno shoot – her doing drugs with the actors – the… Read more »

JoeyJon avatar
1 year ago
Reply to  JoeyJon

Okay and it turns out the super-villains are the producers of the pornos. There is a short 45 second start of each film in the series where the supervillians are at a table laughing it up and brainstorming on different porno shoot scene and plot ideas for the down-on-their-luck superheroines. The behind the scenes is where the actors are saying the nasty degrading things to the superheroines while they’re fucking them and all high out of their minds not really knowing where they are… but all that is edited out of the glossy porno shoot scene and you can’t even… Read more »

Zeekmoont
Zeekmoont
1 year ago
Reply to  SHL

1) You could try something like Blue Rain, from Superheroine World.This is one of a very few superheroine rape fantasies where the superheroine wins in the end. It features lengthy consensual sex scenes, like the kind you would see in a XXX porn film. But, it also portrays dominance and submission. Sex is neither good nor bad. It just depends on context. If it’s coerced, it’s evil. If it’s an act of love, it’s good. The unstated take home message is that the superheroine was able to defeat the villains, because she was empowered by love. 2) You could have… Read more »

Eros
Eros
1 year ago

A more consensual film might prove to be a way of giving a different slant to the genre, but it is more the way that it can be done. Some of the issues of heroine meeting boyfriend, or injured ones having sex to make them feel better to me sound weak. Yeah they would have a boyfreind, but really they should be the ones who are stronger and can survive. Sex for them would be romantic, rather than some way of getting over the stress of their role. So I would move the idea on to try some other situations… Read more »

Eddie
Eddie
1 year ago

The idea mentioned here a couple of times of an injured heroine being is a perfect scenario. The element of ryona is there and it allows for a good transition to a sex scene.

Eddie
Eddie
1 year ago

The idea mentioned here a couple of times of an injured heroine being is a perfect scenario. The element of ryona is there and it allows for a good transition to a sex scene.

Sugarcoater avatar
1 year ago

Just a thought, but what about the superheroine coming home after a long night, fixing herself a drink, and dropping on her couch in exhaustion. As she drinks, she begins to think about how she gets off teasing villains in her sexy outfit. She starts touching and fondling herself, then gets more intense about it. But she can’t seem to get herself off, so she finally gives in and calls [insert fellow her/heroine here] and suggests they come over. It could also be she invited over her significant other and finally reveals who she is. Basically the premise is she… Read more »

Gerard
Gerard
1 year ago

I support the idea wholeheartedly. A young injured heroine gets her battle injuries taken care of by her nerdy sidekick until her whimpers of pain turn into whimpers of pleasure.

Gerard
Gerard
1 year ago

I support the idea wholeheartedly. A young injured heroine gets her battle injuries taken care of by her nerdy sidekick until her whimpers of pain turn into whimpers of pleasure.

erikhandel avatar
1 year ago

Hey, I created an account just to say I’d totally support this. I’m a member of SuperWomanMania, and we focus on the kind of content you described instead of peril content. If you want to make a fun movie and mostly if not completely peril free, I think you’d have the support of everyone over at SWM

Alan
Alan
1 year ago
Reply to  SHL

If you include things like bondage, like the heroine was tied up after having sex with her lover, and then got destroyed. I would chip-in (not $50, like $500 – 1000). If I can have some VIP access, like to be presence when the film is filmed (I won’t intervene nor participate), I can chip-in more. If making the production bigger and there might be a profit and if you are willing to share the profit, I can invest even more. But for all of your production, like I said before, I am very serious.

GeekyPornCritic
GeekyPornCritic
1 year ago
Reply to  SHL

I actually like your initial idea for the consentual film with the superheroine desiring sex from a romantic interest. The scene would require a bit of story build up before the hardcore sex for me to buy it. Maybe she rescues someone she has been crushing on like how Supergirl saves James from Bizarro Supergirl. I would buy this video even without the extra part with the villain trying take advantage of the heroine.

I think fans of the model will buy the video regardless of any peril.

John
John
1 year ago
Reply to  SHL

Hey, if you’re willing to do this, I’ll be openly promoting this to a site that would adore this kind of content. We’ve been dying to have someone create content like this and you’re just a blessing! There are a lot of people over there that would be very much interested and would easily chip in money if needed! I do hope that you consider in making this kind of films!

I’ll take this link and send it to our group so that they would be notified of this wonderful news

KiriAegis
KiriAegis
1 year ago

I love heroine vs villainess peril best, but the usual scenario is the heroine stumbling into a lair and losing badly. If we’re talking hardcore with the heroine enjoying herself, I’m thinking of an arranged defeat. Basic synopsis here: The quirks of the main heroine is that she’s at heart a masochist, and also exhibitionist who enjoys doing what she does in a scanty heroine costume. A rising villainess known for specialty in taking down heroines posts an advertisement on a forum, perhaps even in local newspapers. She offers an arranged defeat to local heroines that will result in their… Read more »

GeekyPornCritic
GeekyPornCritic
1 year ago
Reply to  KiriAegis

These complaints about the scene “just being a porno” are uninformed. The Uninvited series is a porno series. Sure, there is a story, combat, and peril. However, at the end of the day, it is still a porno movie. It still has hardcore sex. Many videos in SHIP are hardcore videos even with peril. People sound silly complaining it is just porn when most of SHIP is porn.

Sugarcoater avatar
1 year ago

Your argument makes sense, but I think what’s meant by that comment is that when the sex occurs with no remnant of the super heroine outfit, the scene itself doesn’t have the super heroine quality to it. Now that argument would be voided if this was something along the lines of an established actress playing the role for several episodes in a well-known series (I.e. Lynda Carter, Melissa Benoist). But when the video is a 30-40 minute video with no long-term storylines, I can see how the sexual scenes need the costume to make the sequence not merely two people… Read more »

GeekyPornCritic
GeekyPornCritic
1 year ago
Reply to  sugarcoater

I think a superheroine scene can work without a costume for the peril scenes and sex scene. If a superheroine’s costume/uniform is connected to her powers, then it can deactivate, and she will be naked in just boots and a mask if she wears one. Think about Power Rangers. Their suits deactivate after taking too much damage or losing their powers.

Heroineburgh avatar
1 year ago

The perfect heroine for costume destruction connected with power loss is Empowered. A good portion of what Adam Warren writes in that comic is a parody of various fetishes. No one’s ever done an Empy SHIP video so it would be unique. Just call it “Depowered”.

Imagineer
Imagineer
1 year ago

How refreshing it would be if people were honest with themselves and the rest of us and said “that doesn’t have what I’m looking for in my porn” or “that doesn’t satisfy my particular fetish” instead of derisively saying “that’s just porn.”

TheLecher avatar
1 year ago

I think that you’re missing the point which those posts are trying to make. When they say “just porn”, they mean “basic porn” or “vanilla porn.” At least that’s my reading of those comments. Assuming that I’ve correctly understood them, they have a point to some extent, but I would say not to the extent which they may think. There is definitely a difference between SHIP, whether hardcore or not, and hardcore porn which doesn’t have a fetish element. I would maintain that the mere presence of costumes and a superheroine theme constitute a fetish, but only to a minor… Read more »

KiriAegis
KiriAegis
1 year ago

I’d tend to call failing to split the definitions uninformed. If the whole plot is just a lead to sex, it’s porn. Something with peril content is a ryona, which to me defines a good number of vids I’ve seen.

Imagineer
Imagineer
1 year ago
Reply to  KiriAegis

Porn is anything whose primary purpose is to arouse you, and in a personal sense any media you use to arouse yourself. The way most people use “porn” here is the *opposite* or at least dishonest, and ultimately harmful.

Rover
Rover
1 year ago
Reply to  Imagineer

When people use “porn” they are indicating exactly what you said. People are using the umbrella term “porn” to indicate that a video not specific to the sub-genre of interest. There are technical definitions and colloquial uses, after all. SHIP is a very niche genre and this site is sort of the epicenter of the genre right now. So changes in genre direction are going to spark large debates. Personally I hate the new direction (e.g. Primal) versus what it has been for years (e.g. early TBFE, Next Global Crisis, Heroine Legends, Stormy Tempest). Old SuperheroineCentral and most Rye films… Read more »

GeekyPornCritic
GeekyPornCritic
1 year ago
Reply to  Imagineer

@Rover Does SHIP really have a new direction? Hardcore SHIP scenes started ten years ago from Steve Steele, and nobody gives him any credit for starting this genre at Sexed Up Superheroines. However, most companies in SHIP film softcore videos. Companies like Rye and TBFE do not support “both factions”. They support the softcore factions. While companies like Primal Fetish support the hardcore faction. Primal probably has a larger consumer base since fans of their models expect hardcore content, and are more willing to buy hardcore videos over softcore videos. The only difference between RYE/TBFE and Primal Fetish is hardcore… Read more »

Imagineer
Imagineer
1 year ago
Reply to  Imagineer

This site isn’t exclusively SHIP, nonsexual-violence SHIP is not the one true faith, and those with such a superior attitude dripping from the language they use aren’t doing themselves, their sub-subgenre, or the genre overall any favors.

Rover
Rover
1 year ago
Reply to  Imagineer

“those with such a superior attitude dripping from the language they use aren’t doing themselves, their sub-subgenre, or the genre overall any favors”

Strange – that’s EXACTLY why I reply to you…

mgun1989
mgun1989
1 year ago

It’s sounds great.

Superbgirl
Superbgirl
1 year ago

I think it’d be kinda nice 🙂

But it would totally boil down to chemistry between the leads. I guess that would be very difficult in casting?

yunsja
yunsja
1 year ago

I would love to see a superheroine having peril after encountering her nemesis. When things about to go down, a superhero comes save the day and takes her back to his place.

She wakes up feeling horny and they both get intimate while watching tapes of her getting ‘almost raped’ from the villain.

Imagineer
Imagineer
1 year ago

Mr. and Mrs. Smith, but villain and heroine, or a hero working for the government and a freelance heroine.
or
The Pina Colada Song, in which she’s hesitant about revealing her secret identity and he’s afraid to admit he likes to roleplay as a villain.

Whatever you do, I’m ready to support — because I keep hearing about all this “just porn with costumes” but find very few examples of superheroic erotica, especially without tongue in cheek.

Dragon1
Dragon1
1 year ago

I would say that it seems like straight porn in costume and most of the Vivid porn hero parodies do this. So for me the idea is a pass. I think that is why the uninvited series is so popular you are pushing the envelope.

Sugarcoater avatar
1 year ago

The key element for me would be that costumes stay on but are pulled down or in certain directions to allow for sex. With nudity, the video would be what countless others already are.

TBob avatar
1 year ago

How about when a regular guy dumps a superheroine for her neediness, she uses her powers to make his life a living hell. Also she throws a shark at him. Wait, that’s the plot to My Super Ex-Girlfriend with Uma Thurman.

Unmasked05
Unmasked05
1 year ago

I wouldn’t be into a purely consensual video because I agree it is just porn in costume. However Primal did a great “Wonder Woman defeated by Arousal Gas” video where she gives into her enemy and admits she wanted it. It offers all of a minute of set up then the rest is Wonder Woman giving in. Something like this might satisfy a lot of people and if you could do the hardcore video with Ashley Lane as SuperGirl even better (sorry had to throw that in)! Pretty sure you would make money on the production. Anyway I have always… Read more »

farmerarmando
farmerarmando
1 year ago

Alan Moore kinda hit upon a similar theme in Watchmen re: Nite Owl and Silk Spectre’s sex scene – Dan Dreiberg admitting to Laurie Juspeczyk that costuming foreplay was a major previously undisclosed part of his libido. Yeah, I think you’re onto something as the genre as it is now currently is in a formulaic rut. There’s 2 things that come to mind – one is a book (I forget the title) on young UN humanitarian workers caught in a war zone, facing constant dire crisis, revealing that they had “emergency sex” suddenly to cope with the stress they were… Read more »

Darkwrath016 avatar
1 year ago
Reply to  farmerarmando

Well I don’t think the genre is in a formulaic rut but then again, I’m more or less an easy person to please. I will say that your second idea sounds very interesting. Kind of wondering though if it wouldn’t be hotter if it was two girls instead of a male and female. Maybe even one girl sexually dominating the other. Or one girl is the sidekick and the other one is the main heroine but it’s the sidekick who ends up sexually dominating the the main heroine. Perhaps as a result of releasing all the pent up frustration for… Read more »

farmerarmando
farmerarmando
1 year ago
Reply to  farmerarmando

adding a storyline twist if we go w/ something like, lets say Batman/Wonder Woman agreeing to BDSM roleplaying go of it – what could set WW off the deep end is if she discovers that Batman had been secretly recording the entire session (as he’s a surveillance kind of guy). Batman would have to defend against a very pissed off amazon …or run like hell… there’s a lot of different ways this can go.

Heroineburgh avatar
1 year ago

Here’s another suggestion that’s consensual involving boy/girl. This has been done in various scenarios on clips4sale videos but almost never in a well-produced, convincing way that goes beyond hotel-room level production. The girl has always had a crush on the boy (who can be a roommate or a friend) but has always been too shy to act on it. She acquires superpowers (through whatever means you can devise) and becomes turned on, confident and sexy as a result of using her powers and wearing her tight costume. She then puts the moves on her boy crush and takes control of… Read more »

Izydor
Izydor
1 year ago

I like the idea of a superheroine coming back from a mission in which she got injured. The guy tends to her wounds. Despite being a superheroine, the girl’s hurting a lot and she can’t stand the sting of the disinfectant. So the guy distracts her from the pain in a special way.

AJ
AJ
1 year ago

That’s a refreshing take on the genre! Maybe a friend or boyfriend finds out she’s a superheroine and she becomes totally embarassed by it. The friend confesses a kinky fantasy he had all along for her and she kind of gets turned on wearing her provocative outfit in front of him. Then the rest of the story gets intimate and kinky from there.

Oneshc
Oneshc
1 year ago

I would like something like the first Idea. She comes from a mission or as you write it Night Shift and than they have sensual (Hardcore) Sex-like normal couples are doing it. No “costume ripping” or something, but maybe with a unmask Scene…
This would be a “Instant-buy” for me.

Darkwrath016 avatar
1 year ago

It sounds interesting but wouldn’t that literally be porn in costume. There’s no peril, no beatdown. Just a fairly normal scenario that leads to sex. Kinky sex maybe but still sex. I guess for me the act of sex is not the exciting part of any SHIP film but rather the meaning behind of it. Powerful superheroine, thinking she’s unstoppable, suffers an embarrassing and extensive defeat and then is taken by force sexually. That’s mostly why I buy videos from producers because of the whole reverse power structure behind most films and the sexual part isn’t even necessary for me… Read more »

GeekyPornCritic
GeekyPornCritic
1 year ago
Reply to  Darkwrath016

I think consensual scenes can have peril. I was reading Steve Bell’s Ms. Marvelous, and she is defeated by a villain with pheromones. He only has the strength of a normal man, and she is much stronger than him. She could easily defeat him, BUT his pheromones gives him the edge. The heroine succumbs to the pheromones and is a willing sex partner. Nature forces her to submit to her natural urges and in the hands of her predator.

Thanatos
Thanatos
1 year ago

I don’t think being manipulated by pheromones is consensual at all.

GeekyPornCritic
GeekyPornCritic
1 year ago
Reply to  Thanatos

I’m not talking about unnatural pheromones from someone like Poison Ivy. Pheromones occur in nature. It’s a debatable subject for humans because science has not been able pinpoint pheromones on humans because we rely on many attributes when picking partners. Although it’s natural for animals to use pheromones to attract mates.

RyonaKing avatar
1 year ago

Replace phermones with roofies. Or alcohol.
But I see where you’re going with that. Phermones could mean seduction, which is many would consider as consent.

Heroineburgh avatar
1 year ago
Reply to  SHL

I think Geeky is talking about these stories (not comics) from Mr X’s site but I don’t know which story it is.
http://www.dangerbabecentral.com/xpage/msmarvelous/stories.html

Dr_Mabuse avatar
1 year ago
Reply to  Heroineburgh

It’s “Ms. Marvelous v Johnny Hawkeye”.

GeekyPornCritic
GeekyPornCritic
1 year ago
Reply to  Heroineburgh

Thanks! That’s the story!

Wigglyfish
Wigglyfish
1 year ago

Also, I really like the other suggestions posted 🙂

Wigglyfish
Wigglyfish
1 year ago

I would be interested. Imo, there aren’t enough movies within this genre that focus on the fine details of character development, back-story, conversation, and costume. Which imo are the best bits. Seems that most movies cut straight to the heroine getting pummelled and raped. I may be wrong, but I dont think that many people have the patience to follow a story-line thesedays. Consider how modern Hollywood superhero/action movies favour explosions over character and plot development, and compare them to classics such as the original Superman/Supergirl movies, or Linda Carter’s Wonder Woman series. But like you say, I think it… Read more »

Heroineburgh avatar
1 year ago

Hardcore sensual love story between superheroine and supervillain, with all the inherent tensions it entails, would be excellent. Movies and comics have addressed this trope in the past – the funny web series “Super Knocked Up” is about a hero and villainess who have a child together, and the new graphic novel Flying Sparks showcases a similar relationship – but you could definitely put a beautiful spin on it. Even more welcome (on this forum, I would think) would be a love story between two female characters – maybe they’re superheroine rivals, maybe they’re heroine and villainess, whatever can increase… Read more »

DaJinx avatar
1 year ago

How about where the Superheroine is injured and rescued by a superhero, She is carried back to his HQ unconscious and while being nursed back to health they get intimate?

GeekyPornCritic
GeekyPornCritic
1 year ago

I really like number 3 with the Superheroine confessing her feelings to her guy friend. It would be a cool twist for her to discover her love interest is a super villain after she hooks up with him.

Josh
Josh
1 year ago

Consensual is more commonly used, but both are acceptable. Consentual is more common in legal terms but acceptable in colloquial terms, also. Sorry, I didn’t bother to use quotation marks.

Dizzy
Dizzy
1 year ago

Maybe something where she comes back from a fight, (one she’s either lost or is still hurting from) and the love interest tends to her and helps her ‘recover’ so to speak.